Profile For Ana B.

My apologies Robert. I've been juggling my work at the same time trying to help my husband find some answers in just the last 20 hours. I just got overwhelmed.

My response wasn’t meant to be condescending. It was meant to give some insight as to why companies have to be so strict in regards to drug policies. In regards to being downrange, been there as well and I do understand the stresses. I do hope he can get it sorted out but as was already mentioned, he’s got a tough road ahead of him because of when the failed test happened.

Hi Anne- thanks for replying. Truly appreciate your support. Any word of advice would help at this point.

His SAP counselor submitted his SAP completion to the clearinghouse already. Just can't get the permit suspension lifted without a RTD. One school in Sacramento is willing to take him, but they won't do an RTD 😞 they told my husband once he gets his permit reinstated, he can get registered asap. But, hooooow lol.

I've updated our location on my bio.

Ana,

Hey, I've been following along. I've nothing for you 'yet,' doesn't mean I 'won't.' I come up with a lot of 'unknown' companies that have taken folk on, where no one else would.

Problem is, I'm not 'real' familiar with the PNW (or the West Coast) hardly at all.

Many of our guys are, ie: StevoReno.

Could you put your location in your profile, please?

Thanks, & best to you & your hubby; I'll look around.

~ Anne ~

Thanks for your feedback. I'm really not here to cause upsets in anyone or have people think my husband was a pothead because he's not. He's a USMC veteran and turned to cannabis use briefly to help him cope. If you've been overseas, you'd understand the stress. We appreciate your breakdown of the legal aspects in trucking. Again, we are not the dumb folks who just woke up one day and wanna get into trucking not knowing the full extent of the job. We've done our research and this is what he wants to do.

Please stop commenting to be condescending as if we don't belong in the industry. Great for the ones who didn't have to go through hurdles. But, again for people like my husband. He genuinely wants to know the possibilities.

Banks “theory” isn’t a theory. At any point in time, some idiot on a cell phone are any other distraction could side swipe a truck and destroy their car. Whether they are at fault or not, the damage to their vehicle or potential injury makes it a DOT reportable accident and the driver is going to be tested. Now let’s get into the litigation side of it. There are 30 different law firms (this came directly from our companies insurance agent and moderator who’s job it is to monitor everything motor carrier wise) whose speciality is suing trucking companies. It’s literally all they do and they are exceptional at it. That’s why companies have to be so careful regarding everything because the litigation potential is always hovering over their head, even if they’re in the clear.

Yes. He did.

Did he submit the SAP info and completion to clearinghouse?

Yes, he tested very low on cannabis, but.....not low enough to get him out of the positive threshold.

He already completed the SAP program and was cleared. He paid on his own to get a urine and hair test which both came back negative.

The problem we are having is that his class A permit is now suspended and we don't know how to reinstate it back because the clearinghouse is asking for him to get a RTD test. He wasn't employed by Prime yet, he was just in the beginning phase to obtain a CDL.

The clearinghouse is assuming that he already has a CDL. They're not understanding our questions so we haven't had any luck with them at all.

FMSCA Guidelines say

• You will not be permitted to return to performing DOT regulated safety-sensitive duties until you have:- Undergone an evaluation by a Substance Abuse Professional (SAP);- Successfully completed any education, counseling or treatment prescribed by the SAP prior to returning to service; and- Provided a negative test result for drugs and/or a test result of less than 0.02 for alcohol. (Return to duty testing).

The bold part is important. What was the outcome of SAP?

It also sounds like he can do the drug test himself without an employer. I would let the MRO in the lab know the purpose of the test because it may follow a different criteria.

Keep in mind, this can get expensive and doesn't guarantee any results.

Apology accepted Banks! Thank you so much for that. No hard feelings on my end. I had posted a response at the same time you posted the apology.

You're feedback would still be appreciated on my end. 😀

I feel foolish. My apologies, Ana. It's been a long night and a tedious couple of weeks I've been dealing with. It's no excuse, but I'm sorry.

Thanks for pointing that out, Real.

To Banks.... this is your theory....

"You have to look it from a company's point of view. Can you imagine the lawsuit they would have on their hands if your husband got into an accident that involved a death or dismemberment and tested positive at the accident site? Any bottom of their class ambulance chaser would get rich off of that one. They'd say "prime put a guy that recently failed a drug test in the driver seat". Cha-ching. I wish you guys the best of luck and we'll see what pops up once we know what state you're in."

I was NOT disagreeing with you at all in what you said originally. I think you completely misunderstood my response to it. I get it, it's in text. It could be perceived the wrong way. But, I am not being entitled and or trying to make my post as if it's "aaww poor us" type of a situation.

I'm not asking for empathy from anyone. I posted because I am genuinely asking for any feedbacks from knowledgeable and experienced drivers. I'm sorry you had came across entitled idiot's, but we are definable in that group.

My husband really thought he was clear enough to pass the DOT. The mistake we made was not get a home test prior to getting the actual DOT. He was too excited and eager to start.

Again, thank you for your time and for anyone else willing to comment with any feedbacks. I truly appreciate you all. ❤️

"BANKS".....my apologies auto correct and I pressed the wrong suggestion.

Hi Bill, thanks for your feedback.

Your theory absolutely makes sense. There's no "but" to add into that at all.

We are from California. He knew he was going to be tested and he knew what the world of trucking entails due to his extensive research in the industry before applying. That's what made him stop using cannabis in the first place because he wanted to join the industry.

Hi Bill, thanks for your feedback.

Your theory absolutely makes sense. There's no "but" to add into that at all.

We are from California. He knew he was going to be tested and he knew what the world of trucking entails due to his extensive research in the industry before applying. That's what made him stop using cannabis in the first place because he wanted to join the industry.

So, I'm doing this for my husband. He's probably not gonna be happy, but I need answers.

He took his CLP test & past. Got his permit.

He applied to get his CDL training approved from Prime Inc. in April. They sent him to get a DOT test. Cannabis came back positive (very low #, but still enough to mark him fail). He has been cannabis free since November 2021. He contacted Prime & the recruiter told him he's bard from applying with them for the next 3 years and good luck. End of conversation.

The Dr that took the DOT test was the one who advised him to enter the SAP program. So, he did. He completed SAP. Passed a DOT test that he personally paid for. Both urine & hair. Here's where it gets complicated.

He is still trying to get into any....ANY school at this point in order to get a CDL. Whether if its company sponsored or if he has to pay out of pocket. His CLP is suspended because he needs an employer to get him a return to duty status to lift the suspension. How can he go return to duty if he doesn't have a CDL? Idk if this even makes sense. Like, he can't get a trucking job because he only has a permit. And nobody wants him because he thought he could pass the DOT since he hasn't smoked in months.

Does anyone have any advice to give? He's been taking this extremely hard because it's all so confusing. Is this the end for him? Who does he need to talk to? Is there a school that is willing to give him a chance?

Thank you all so much