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Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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I too am a mtf transgender trucker.i live 24/7 as a woman now. I've been driving like this for 2 weeks, and have been unconditionally accepted by the company I drive for. Out on the road, I have been treated very well, with only the occasional dirty look from the ignorant few that I encountered. I've been to shippers and receivers with no incident. Ignorance is out there, and I'm sure you will encounter some, but it is dwindling in prevalence, and hopefully it will be completely gone when the ignorant ones die off. If you do get your cdl, I think you will find a home out here on the road.
This is good to hear. I am only seeing the ones that are truly "Haters" that are ignorant and that are not accepting.
Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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I guess I am wondering why people want to complicate their already complex decisions by entering a field that is filled with men who will NEVER on earth respect them. I was born female, am female and will stay female. I am not protected class. I am not lesbian. My mature age and gender are not given any special consideration at all by 98% of the male students at trucker school. Why should you or anyone with such an issue with gender identity expect BETTER treatment than those of us born and bred female by openly proclaiming your transgender status? Seems like the only place you would want to be open about it would be on the physical exam in privacy of doctor-patient relationship. All the laws on the books aren't going to change reality of the overwhelming majority of men driving the goods in this country or any other. Just being real with you.
This is a ridiculous response. If she wants to be a trucker and "complicate her already complex decision" she has the same rights and opportunities we all do. Did anyone tell you not to go into a male dominated field because you're old? And if they did, did it stop you? Not being sexually harrassed is NOT special treatment, it's the law and it's our RIGHT.
The Law is the Law. However, there are many with whom would overlook the law to conform to with how they believe. I worked at the DMV, and time after time, I knew what the law stated in black and white. However, it seems that many that worked at DMV especially in Management would make up their own laws, to conform to their own beliefs. I would fight them and win every time. They did not like me for this, however, it was THE LAW.
Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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I guess I am wondering why people want to complicate their already complex decisions by entering a field that is filled with men who will NEVER on earth respect them. I was born female, am female and will stay female. I am not protected class. I am not lesbian. My mature age and gender are not given any special consideration at all by 98% of the male students at trucker school. Why should you or anyone with such an issue with gender identity expect BETTER treatment than those of us born and bred female by openly proclaiming your transgender status? Seems like the only place you would want to be open about it would be on the physical exam in privacy of doctor-patient relationship. All the laws on the books aren't going to change reality of the overwhelming majority of men driving the goods in this country or any other. Just being real with you.
Angi, I don't think anyone here is asking for better treatment. I think the concerned is being treated on equal ground and not discriminated against, however if you're a woman now why tell anyone about who you were in the past. Just because I've never felt I shouldn't have been a woman doesn't mean I don't want everyone to know all of my past. All professions have narrow-minded people in them. I was a paralegal and what I heard some of the lawyers say in private meetings could have gotten them and the company I worked for sued. My question is why give a rat's ass what people think, you're a woman that's all anyone needs to know.
I have now made it to this point. I used to care what everyone thought to the point of living my life how others expected me to, and not what I wanted, and not what made me happy.
I have now decided to embrace who I am, and fully take control of my life. If I want to wear Women's Sexy Clothes and Express my Sexy Self, then I will, if I want to wear Men's Clothes and Express another side of me then I will. If I wan to do a So Called Girly Job such as Office work, then I will, If I want to do the So Called Manly Job to Drive a Truck and enjoy the Freedom of the Road and see the countryside, and something different every Day. Then I will.
It is my choice, my decision, and it is now who I am.
Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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Transgender Women In Trucking (Please don't laugh...not a joke)
I guess I am wondering why people want to complicate their already complex decisions by entering a field that is filled with men who will NEVER on earth respect them. I was born female, am female and will stay female. I am not protected class. I am not lesbian. My mature age and gender are not given any special consideration at all by 98% of the male students at trucker school. Why should you or anyone with such an issue with gender identity expect BETTER treatment than those of us born and bred female by openly proclaiming your transgender status? Seems like the only place you would want to be open about it would be on the physical exam in privacy of doctor-patient relationship. All the laws on the books aren't going to change reality of the overwhelming majority of men driving the goods in this country or any other. Just being real with you.
Angi, I don't think anyone here is asking for better treatment. I think the concerned is being treated on equal ground and not discriminated against, however if you're a woman now why tell anyone about who you were in the past. Just because I've never felt I shouldn't have been a woman doesn't mean I don't want everyone to know all of my past. All professions have narrow-minded people in them. I was a paralegal and what I heard some of the lawyers say in private meetings could have gotten them and the company I worked for sued. My question is why give a rat's ass what people think, you're a woman that's all anyone needs to know.
I have now made it to this point. I used to care what everyone thought to the point of living my life how others expected me to, and not what I wanted, and not what made me happy.
I have now decided to embrace who I am, and fully take control of my life. If I want to wear Women's Sexy Clothes and Express my Sexy Self, then I will, if I want to wear Men's Clothes and Express another side of me then I will. If I wan to do a So Called Girly Job such as Office work, then I will, If I want to do the So Called Manly Job to Drive a Truck and enjoy the Freedom of the Road and see the countryside, and something different every Day. Then I will.
It is my choice, my decision, and it is now who I am.
Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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Transgender Women In Trucking (Please don't laugh...not a joke)
I should never have expressed my observations about any of it. However, I would not go in the direction of comparing professional driving to finding medical cures or becoming an astronaut.
Why not? All are worthy, useful, honest careers. If you'd prefer a different comparison, there are plenty of women in construction, plumbing, automotive technology, and many other "blue collar" professions. I'm not trying to argue; it's clear you don't want to. But people who are transgender shouldn't be made to feel like they don't belong, especially on a website billed as "the most friendly and helpful trucker's forum anywhere".
I must truly agree with you. I was unfortunate enough to have my first post be at someone putting a fellow Trans-woman down in my opinion an it gave the appearance as to not even bother with trucking.
Unfortunately I think my hormonal sensitivities got the better of me, and I lashed out. That is however why we are in the Good 'ol United States of America where we have a Constitution and Bill of Rights that give us a freedom of speech privilege
Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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Transgender Women In Trucking (Please don't laugh...not a joke)
It is sad to see that our Genetic Female Sisters are putting shame on us for doing what we want to do. Everybody wants to earn an honest living. Sure we could go ***** around and take your men from you, and have them pay us to do it. Take examples of Some Very Famous Athletes Married to some Very Famous and Rich Women, with whom are very beautiful and would give them anything they wanted, and still they left for a Trans-Sexual Female to play with them.
No, the girls you see on here, are trying to make a true honest living and have rights under Federal and State Law to do so. I have a CDL and I Drive a Truck. I am not Masculine, even though this is a Testosterone Filled Industry. I am Feminine. I have tried all of my life to pretend to be masculine, and I am not.
I was also born a little different. I was born with Both Sexes, so I am not even truly a Trans-woman, I am a Hermaphrodite, so I cannot even be considered truly "One of the Girls" by my Trans-women community.
So, it does have the appearance that in the manner you are speaking that if we are not white, and straight we are not right?
Nobody can be a little different? I believe God Made me this way for a Reason. I was born both Intersex and feel more comfortable as a woman than a man, and I have lived on both sides of the fence.
I am full of natural born estrogen, and even though I try my hardest to do man things and be the supposed stronger sex, it s not who I am.
I experience mood swings like you, I have PMS really bad like you, I am just like you, except I have some extra parts, and some of the same.
I guess I am wondering why people want to complicate their already complex decisions by entering a field that is filled with men who will NEVER on earth respect them. I was born female, am female and will stay female. I am not protected class. I am not lesbian. My mature age and gender are not given any special consideration at all by 98% of the male students at trucker school. Why should you or anyone with such an issue with gender identity expect BETTER treatment than those of us born and bred female by openly proclaiming your transgender status? Seems like the only place you would want to be open about it would be on the physical exam in privacy of doctor-patient relationship. All the laws on the books aren't going to change reality of the overwhelming majority of men driving the goods in this country or any other. Just being real with you.
I don't think the OP, or anyone else expects special treatment. They expect the same treatment as every other woman, (or man for that matter) who enters trucking. I am also biologically a woman, and I identify as one. If you're not treated well by your classmates at school, you need to stand up for yourself. The last time I checked, the ignition of a truck isn't phallus shaped. If by "special consideration" you mean special treatment, I don't see why you would want it. In fact I don't see anyone on this thread who wants special treatment, only equality.
By the way, you ARE a protected class. The EEOC also prohibits employment discrimination based on sex and age (among other things). Though this only applies to your employer, you are protected in this regard and should know your rights.
Regardless of your opinion on the matter, the laws are in place. What Desiree's trainer is doing is sexual harassment under the eyes of the law. I am not suggesting she sue, I am merely pointing out that her company would certainly like to know so that they can reprimand the trainer appropriately, and potentially avoid a large lawsuit from someone further down the line.
I guess I am wondering why people want to complicate their already complex decisions by entering a field that is filled with men who will NEVER on earth respect them.
Why did Marie Curie enter the field of physics? Why did Rosalind Franklin study DNA? Why did Rachel Carson write Silent Spring? Why did Mae Jemison enter space? Grace Hopper? Sally Ride? Florence Nightingale? The list goes on. These women all entered fields "filled with men who would NEVER on earth respect them". Maybe they did it because it was their calling. Maybe because they knew they could change the world. Maybe some even did it because they wanted to prove all the naysayers wrong.
By your logic, no woman should enter trucking (including you). For that matter, no woman should enter ANY field that is male-dominated (read: nearly all of them). To imply that transgender women (or men, for that matter) shouldn't even enter trucking? Why, because it will be hard? It's hard regardless, and I'm sure most people who are transgender have endured enough hardship to be able to stomach a little more in order to do what they love.
Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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This is so Awesome to hear. I would like to hear an update about where you are, and how you are, and how things are going. PM me for sure.