Profile For Dan B.

You'll pay just over $7200 at Knight. I'd say you got a bargain.

For CDL school, not Orientation

There are a few comments here that seem to confuse training for a CDL …. with Orientation, which IMHO is much closer to what Ruminator is implying he needs.

I totally understand the need for someone with zero experience to need to be trained in all aspects of driving a rig. That training justifies a cost to be paid to Roehl if the trainee bolts for the door. But if someone walks through the door with a CDL and all the company needs to do is train them on company specific procedures, that is Orientation, not CDL training, and that expense really need to be carried by the company.

I have been unable to get any info out of Roehl as to what the total cost of their program is to train someone who needs the full CDL training. TT has a cost of $2,800 listed, but if they are now demanding $3,150 from drivers that already have a CDL, I’m sure their cost to train raw recruits is substantially higher. So far, I have been unable to get any information out of Roehl as to the full cost of their CDL program.

Roehl was at the absolute top of my list both for CDL training and possibly driving for, but they have moved down a few notches as a result of practices like this. And although they still sound like a decent company to drive for, since I am unable to get any info out of them at all regarding training, I don’t even have a choice but to remove Roehl from consideration.

I have a somewhat similar situation where I chose not to work to help take care of my mother. I talked to a recruiter with Schneider a week or so ago and mentioned this lapse and why it was there, and he was very careful in his response and acknowledged that it was something they do look at, but as long as I had a valid reason he did not see it as an overwhelming obstacle. That said, I would be prepared to elaborate on your reason, and backing it up with character references would help. The Schneider recruiter told me I would need to explain my lapse.

I find it puzzling that an industry that has close to a 100% turnover ratio has an iota of concern about uh, turnover.

Hello! My husband got his CDL A over a year ago and has been working OTR, I am trying to help him find something local but wanted more information on load pay vs. for hire pay vs. pay per miles in the Midwest region. It would be much appreciated if anyone could provide me with some realistic dollar amounts, he wants to make a move sooner thank later. Thanks!

Tina, I'm still wading through a lot of the 'pay' info myself to find factual information, but I did want to pass something on;

Schneider has a terminal close to me and in searching through their website for jobs, I noticed they have a lot of places where you can go talk to a recruiter. I'm not sure if they are honest or just tell you that you can "make up to" whatever, but I'm going to give it a shot.

http://schneiderjobs.com/company-drivers/recruiting-events

Why do people always think that a recruiter is trying to pull a fast one on a person? Schneider is very reputable. If it is in writing, especially on their specific job descriptions, you can take out to the bank.

Because I see so much deception and dishonesty coming from the industry. I think the exceptionally high turnover rate indicates something is seriously wrong in the industry.

I’ve done a fair amount of research into jobs in my area and Schneider rates pretty highly IMHO, but their ads are still deceptive. As an example, they have a local dedicated driver job listed at ‘up to $65,000 a year’. I found 2 other drivers that worked for Schneider at that facility and in that capacity and their pay was $40k to $45 a year running hard. One also said he had issue between the home time the recruiter told him he would have, and what he eventually got.

I am still considering driving as a career but I have taken one step back from it. I see possibilities in it both from a financial and schedule perspective, but I’m not going to wade through too much BS to get there.

Hello! My husband got his CDL A over a year ago and has been working OTR, I am trying to help him find something local but wanted more information on load pay vs. for hire pay vs. pay per miles in the Midwest region. It would be much appreciated if anyone could provide me with some realistic dollar amounts, he wants to make a move sooner thank later. Thanks!

Tina, I'm still wading through a lot of the 'pay' info myself to find factual information, but I did want to pass something on;

Schneider has a terminal close to me and in searching through their website for jobs, I noticed they have a lot of places where you can go talk to a recruiter. I'm not sure if they are honest or just tell you that you can "make up to" whatever, but I'm going to give it a shot.

http://schneiderjobs.com/company-drivers/recruiting-events

Kurt, I would have referred to the actual legislation anyway. There seems to be some confusion even among veteran drivers so you can imagine how confusing it could appear to someone not familiar at all with the rules (me). What you posted lists the rules perfectly I think, and that’s what I was looking for; facts and not an opinion or educated guess.

Danielsahn, I’m not trying to make it complicated at all, I just didn’t know. Before I asked the question I did research on the rule both on TT and other websites and the comments about the 34 hour restart were not consistent, and that’s why I asked.

Dan B. I must commend you for having the patience to read thru all the applicable legislation. It's nice to hear that you would go to such lengths. Wish you luck in whatever field you do pursue.

I would rather not have to do that but what I was reading from other people got so confusing I decide to look up the legislation. Part of my work years ago involved researching legislation, FAR clauses, etc., so it was easy to find.

Dan, part of the reason your question, and the search for your answer is so confusing is that you do not even understand the rules in the first place

That's why one of the first things I did was state I had no real knowledge outside what I had read, which was just a few hours of research. But a lot of the material I read was confusing and that's why I asked the question to begin with. I think some of the other comments on here at least suggest the status of the rules makes it confusing. From the comments on here and the additional material I have read, I think I have a better handle on the rule now, but I still want to read more to make sure.

If I didn't know any better, I'd say the government was involved with this.

Dan, Are you asking if the government is involved with this forum?

Not at all.

Dan, are yuo reading the rule book? You would honestly do better with the Log Book section of the High Road Training Program. Then you only worry about what is going on now, not what is or ain't effective and do not worry yourself about 2011 or 2013 or whatever.

Errol, when i first read 'suspended' I assumed it meant there was nothing in its place. I'm still reading through the legislation but can you confirm it left the 2003 34 hour reset rule in place?

Basically the current 34 hour rule says, any time you go off duty or Sleeper for 34 hours, and your weekly clock (70 or 80 hours) is completely reset. One of the reasons dedicated routes have a weekend off is it gives you the opportunity to run those 10-11 driving hours per day and not worry about maxing out for the week. I, too, drive this schedule. I also have been on "recaps", which limits your daily drive if you work the 70/80 hour thing. Having a 3 hour day because of the limits is a real drag!

Errol, I had read so much material on the internet that gave conflicting information that I decided to go right to the source; the legislation itself. There is a lot of blather in some of it (they explain how they arrive at their decision) but I know I am reading the actual law. What i did not realize initially is that I was reading the 2011 law that was suspended. I'm over half way through now so I'll finish it and then look for the 2003 legislation. Then I'll go to any info on TT.

I still haven't decided 100% that I am going to do this but the schedule is really appealing. Or maybe I should say the lies in some of the ads are really appealing. Regardless, if I decide to do this I am not going to attend any CDL school until March or April so I have plenty of time to read through more material on this site.