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Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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Unfairness of Pay by the Hour and The Fair Labor Act
Nruck, You sir twisted my words and took this conversation into a philosophical and social debate.
Let me put this to you in another way, anyone trying to enter trucking that as you put it, is "not the sharpest tack" will likely not succeed or last for long in this business. My reference to intelligence was relative to having a level of smarts and common sense necessary to adequately perform. Nothing more.
If you think highly of everybody in trucking, it's odd that you are arguing with the ones that you are defending.
If you really want to learn how to succeed in trucking and learn this business I am happy to help.
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It's a tough accusation to say somebody is twisting your words when they have them in quotes.
Thanks, that's the whole point of me being on here. This thread has gone off the rails. There's really no point in debating the perceived intelligence of those around us through everybody's perception an biases.
Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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Dealing with low bridges and icy roads?
Good place to start is with a Trucker Atlas, link below is one choice. Other is a good GPS for Truckers, I have a Rand McNally TND730...there are others. Trucker Atlas
Ok, that's basically what I was asking. What are the resources to avoid low bridges. Thanks!
Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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Unfairness of Pay by the Hour and The Fair Labor Act
Nruck, You sir twisted my words and took this conversation into a philosophical and social debate.
It's a tough accusation to say somebody is twisting your words when they have them in quotes.
Let me put this to you in another way, anyone trying to enter trucking that as you put it, is "not the sharpest tack" will likely not succeed or last for long in this business. My reference to intelligence was relative to having a level of smarts and common sense necessary to adequately perform. Nothing more.
If you think highly of everybody in trucking, it's odd that you are arguing with the ones that you are defending.
If you really want to learn how to succeed in trucking and learn this business I am happy to help.
Thanks, that's the whole point of me being on here. This thread has gone off the rails. There's really no point in debating the perceived intelligence of those around us through everybody's perception an biases.
Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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Unfairness of Pay by the Hour and The Fair Labor Act
Nruck H. offered this:
Mileage pay increases incentive to drive fast, accidents hurting records discourages unsafe driving.
You guys are both right.
I think being on the road and in isolation doesn't give people a chance to practice their communication skills as much as others, and there are still plenty of people who go into the trucking profession who aren't exactly sharp as a tack, just like the rest of the world's population.
But that's another topic that's probably not totally relevant to this conversation.
I know that I've personally made a lot of stupid blunders in my life and people claim that I'm a very intelligent person.
At no time was I pressured to go faster. At no time did obeying legally posted speed limits and the speed limits governed by Swift's policies negatively effect my ability to get the job done and earn a good living. It incented me to perform, to hustle; with purpose, with efficiency and effective clock management (loosely put: "by not wasting time", "not taking long breaks" and "not getting lost"). The drivers who choose to drive fast and speed will continue to do so regardless of how they are paid.
There may well be people attempting to get into this profession who, as you put it "aren't exactly sharp as a tack". Who are we to judge if that is so?
Well, just saying that it's a bit odd to claim everybody who's a trucker is intelligent while getting to an argument with somebody. It seems like you'd either want to appeal to truckers, or you're afraid of personally being judged. Since you're in an argument with somebody, perhaps it's the latter and not the for. Again, I've said I've done some stupid things myself, not to mention you seem to be making/doing some judgements yourself, are you not? Just something to think about.
Regardless, how many of them actually make it and become successful drivers, earning a good living if they are of limited intelligence? I would argue, few if any. This business rapidly separates the wood from the chaff and will challenge the very soul of a new driver. I encourage you to read the posts of drivers regularly contributing to this forum, trying to assist newbies and doing so on their own free time. I challenge you to find one "regular" on here who falls into your "dull tack" category or for that matter any of the newbies exercising due diligence in researching their options. The "dull tack" stigma exists in the heads of the uninformed, the casual on-lookers that wrongly assume piloting a tractor trailer is a mindless, low level laborious job.
You're challenging me to find a dull tack? You mean everybody here equally excels in their reasoning, mathematical, social skills, etc? That challenge sounds rhetorical, and also that would be a difficult challenge because of people's personal biases, different levels of knowledge/ability to compare to others. Also to say the stigma exists to the "uninformed newbie", well, we're ALL uninformed in one area or another.
But to say that EVERYBODY who's a trucker is intelligent sounds erroneous, and it sounds like you're talking about somebody who thinks that ALL truck drivers are dull, but that's not what I'm saying. I've seen plenty of very intelligent and well stated responses from people who seem to be MUCH smarter than me (and not just in terms of trucking knowledge or experience) on these forums.
I am quite sure as you progress through this journey, you will quickly find, as others have that there is a whole lot more to this than what meets the eye.
Safe travels
Thanks for wishing safe travels. You too. I hope what I said makes some sense.
Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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Dealing with low bridges and icy roads?
How do truckers avoid accidentally driving under low bridges or slipping on icy roads?
I see these come up the most as accidents that truckers have but what do you do as a trucker that comes to a low bridge? Stop? Turn around? Call cops/sheriff/etc. to help move you?
And trucks don't have snow chains/tires/etc. because they're too heavy and would tear up the road?
Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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Yep I went through their program about 3 years ago. there main office is located in Anaheim. They have 2 locations one in 29 palms, and one in Oceanside. I went through the school in 29 palms while I was in the service so I didn't pay out of pocket but if I remember correctly the cost was around 4,500. I would go to their website and check them out or give them a call. great school.
I can't afford that unfortunately.
I can only afford $2,000 MAX, and that would probably include gas driving to a cheaper school that's 5x farther away.
Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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Looking into schools, price difference, what companies will hire?
I feel obligated to chime in here. The school I'm attending cost me about 80 bucks out of pocket. I was awarded a workforce and hope grant which covered everything. Out of pocket would have been 1200 bucks. We don't have an advanced facility with simulators and brand new tractors, our classroom is a small building beside the range and is run by 2 guys with decades of experience. I feel that we ( only 8 of us) will do just fine. And as an added bonus or 2, he is certified by the state to administer the cdl test so we will be prepared for test day, its also 30 min from my house. This was the best option for me, I'm sure everyone else will have different situations. So all in all yea you probably get what you pay for, but all the mega companies and a few smaller ones send recruiters to this school starting Monday actually.
Thanks!
Yeah, lots of people will talk like they know everything, but people can really only speak from their experiences. I trust people who say, "Well, this is what I went through" or "I saw this posted" or " (so and so) on the forums here said this was their experience" "Check the CDL diary portion of the forums" etc. and talk about the facts as they are presented.
I saw a video on YouTube of a guy who went to Toro (one of the $1,500 or less schools I was talking about) and on his channel he's got videos of him soon after looking like he's working.
Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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Hello all, not really sure how to get to the point, so my fingers are going to type and my brain is gonna spill. I'm a 28 years old male and I have been doing hair for about 9 years. I'm board with it. I travel a lot when I have time off, I love to drive. I refuse to fly. (Not because I'm scared) I feel like since I love to drive why not get paid to do it. I know it's not gonna all be unicorns and rainbows, but I think it's something I would be good at. I live 4 hours from the closet CDL school. SAGE. I really like the fact that they have one on one BTW training and limited class sizes. I would have to find a place to stay for the duration on the training. My nerves are kicking in and I'm scared. I have all these things running through my mind. What if I can't back the truck, what if I fail, what if I need MORE training, all these what if's. I also have all these predetermined ideas of who a truck driver IS. IE: Strong, burley man, i've even seen woman drivers. (Love seeing that) I'm 6'0 and 150 pounds. Image ME driving a big ole tractor. I guess what I'm looking for is moral support. Thoughts, how YOU felt before you started...
I feel you bro.
I'm looking into trucking because I don't really have much skills after spending half my life working multiple crappy jobs and going to junior college.
I'm burned out and am afraid that I'll throw thousands of dollars into a trucking program and just waste time and money I don't have (in big credit card debt to stay afloat) and I don't want to be homeless or go to jail.
I don't really have any family or friends I can rely on.
Posted: 8 years, 11 months ago
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Three Swift Swifts Parking Follies
That is a worry of mine, that I will have that much trouble backing.
I don't really find that video all that funny myself. Mostly because they didn't hit anything, and they're almost certainly all in the early stages of learning. The only thing you should expect of a new driver is that they don't hit anything. Otherwise take all day if you have to, that's called learning.
(you're a) Good man.
Posted: 8 years, 10 months ago
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How to change email on TruckingTruth?
Hi, I'm getting lots of spam on my email account that I used to register with TruckingTruth (it's about 20 years old), and I'm wondering how to change the email I used to register on here with another email address.
I couldn't figure it out.