Profile For Clayton J.

Thanks for listening. All the guys we're trying to get our lawyers on the same page , if you need any further proof email me Claytonjews@gmail.com

They've definitely revamped their website but the information at the moment is unclear. They still have information up about student housing and getting your CDL through them. We'll keep an eye on it and see if they update it or check in here with us to verify anything.

Thanks for the heads up Clayton. Obviously as you can see from this conversation we've had our eye on these guys for a long time and we've tried giving them some advice about how to run their school without putting students in a bad situation. I'm hoping they do indeed drop the schooling altogether. No one should come straight off the street, learn to drive a truck, and then immediately be thrust into the role of an owner operator. It's entirely too dangerous to put that kind of pressure on someone and there's no possible way you can know how to compete as a business owner in an industry you know nothing about.

I have screenshots of the text message from the school instructor there's about 10 of us and we all have each other's numbers, and we're all communicating to get our lawyers page send me your email and I can send you the pictures and the contact information of all the students that were dropped off at the homeless shelter. we all sign the contract did everything they asked but it was dropped off with no way home. At this moment my family still sending money for the other students that are still there

There might actually be some truth to this. Usually by now they, Lobos would have replied with something,...crickets.

It just happened yesterday I can sent you screenshots of the text messages from the school instructor

The company is under investigation for mail fraud.

then one morning I was told the school is shutting down all the rumors were true.

Can you verify somehow that either one of these are true? Their website is still advertising for CDL students and I couldn't find anything about a mail fraud investigation. We'll publish any facts you have but they must be verifiable facts.

The worst company in the world. I came to lobos as a student trying to get my CDL. The first day they preach "don't listen to the rumors" i should have notice red flags right there. The company is under investigation for mail fraud. everyday I ask what's going on? should I be looking for another job? and everyday they feed me bull**** saying its just rumors don't worry, your in good hands. then one morning I was told the school is shutting down all the rumors were true. me and about 10 other guys were basically dump at a homeless shelter no money to get home and no food, by the grace of God I was able to get my family to buy me a ticket home. by the time I purchased the ticket it was too late I had to sit at the bus station for a whole day, the rest of the guys had to stay in the streets of Utah or at the homeless shelter in Utah the worst mistake I've ever made. Do not work for or with this company.

We make no attempt to hide the fact that there is a contract to sign and if you are not willing to sign the contract then you will need to make your own way home. If you're not prepared to do that and you can't afford to pay your own way back then PLEASE do not come out for orientation.

Ok let me try to explain this as clearly as I can, and I welcome your reasonable response to this:

1. You apparently do not allow prospective students to see and review the contract prior to coming to orientation.

2. Many (if not most) of the people who come to you are desperate, naive, new to the industry and/or unable to acquire employment at a typical company for various reasons. Most probably do not even understand the difference between company drivers and owner/operators.

When you combine these two facts, it gives us the impression that your company is preying on these people, drawing them to you without giving them all the facts, then making it difficult or even impossible for them to leave.

It's easy to say don't come to orientation if you're not willing to sign our contract, but when you dangle dollar signs in front of desperate people's eyes without giving them all the relevant and necessary information, you know full well what is going to happen.

The simple solution is to be totally upfront and transparent with everyone, and email them the contract well before they depart for your facility so that they can in fact get the legal advice you recommend they get.

If your company is unwilling to do that, the other solution would be to just pay the return trip costs for those who decline to sign the contract, since as I said before, they came to you in good faith and only declined as a result of your concealment of the full terms of employment until after they arrived.

Either one of these two options would go a long way towards reestablishing your credibility. But I have a feeling your company would be opposed to both, because they would severely undermine the predator/prey business model which seems to be Lobos' strategy, based on what we've been able to ascertain so far.

So can you please respond directly to these points?

And while I'm posting, I need to ask this: why on earth do you have a TEN THOUSAND DOLLAR termination fee??? Ten thousand dollars, for what appears to be minimal training (if you can even call it that) and filing a few documents. That's well above what all the other carriers charge for several months of one-on-one training. How do you justify that?

Almost word for word how I would have responded, totally spot on! Couldn't agree more PC.

When I read Lobos' most recent reply I wondered if the respondent has ever read their contract because his points do not align with it and to an extent contradict the contract's language.

The worst company in the world. I came to lobos as a student trying to get my CDL. The first day they preach "don't listen to the rumors" i should have notice red flags right there. The company is under investigation for mail fraud. everyday I ask what's going on? should I be looking for another job? and everyday they feed me bull**** saying its just rumors don't worry, your in good hands. then one morning I was told the school is shutting down all the rumors were true. me and about 10 other guys were basically dump at a homeless shelter no money to get home and no food, by the grace of God I was able to get my family to buy me a ticket home. by the time I purchased the ticket it was too late I had to sit at the bus station for a whole day, the rest of the guys had to stay in the streets of Utah or at the homeless shelter in Utah the worst mistake I've ever made. Do not work for or with this company.

the worst company in the world. I came to lobos as a student trying to get my CDL. The first day they preach "don't listen to the rumors" i should have notice red flags right there. The company is under investigation for mail fraud. everyday I ask what's going on? should I be looking for another job? and everyday they feed me bull**** saying its just rumors don't worry, your in good hands. then one morning I was told the school is shutting down all the rumors were true. me and about 10 other guys were basically dump at a homeless shelter no money to get home and no food, by the grace of God I was able to get my family to buy me a ticket home. by the time I purchased the ticket it was too late I had to sit at the bus station for a whole day, the rest of the guys had to stay in the streets of Utah or at the homeless shelter in Utah the worst mistake I've ever made. Do not work for or with this company.

Lobos Interstate services? They have ads on Craigslist saying if you sign a three month employment contract with them, they will pay for your CDL training. But I can't find out where they do the training or anything about the program.