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If you took an 8 hour break, drove .5 hours, then took a 2 hour break to complete the split your clocks would read 10:30 on your 11 & 11:30 on your 14.

The 2 hour break time comes off the 14 along with the drive time.

Both your clocks (11 & 14) RESET, to the end of the 8 hour split. So, if you only used 1/2 hour AFTER you took the split - your clocks now have:

10:30 on your 11 & 13:30 on your 14.

Well, i guess I'll bite. OS.

My student was offered 4 accounts, two of which have a significant amount of night driving. She opted not to take those and chose from the other two.

Is she going to make significantly less money because of it? No. In fact she's going to make more because the one account she took pays more than the ones that require night driving.

And by the way, just in case you forgot, driving safely is much more important than trying to one up your fellow drivers for more miles.

Having a elite -take no prisoners-every person for themselves attitude to Jack your fellow truckers is borderline low brow, and bush league. There's enough freight out there. Get it there safely and on time. Pretty simple.

And that's pretty much all I'll say on this topic.

I always have my students drive at least a couple days that go overnight. Like sambo said night driving is different than days. There's nothing to look at except for the striped lines, it's dark, and you get tired and bored faster.

My current student found out that she can't drive nights because she gets tired too quickly so now she can go tell placement that she can't do an account that has night driving. It's always better to figure there stuff out during training instead of your first week solo when you have all the other stresses to deal with.

I had a similar experience last night with a couple amish buggies, and 2 lane roads at midnight.

After a near miss i had to pull over, collect myself, reflect on what just happened, and ask myself what could have happened.

Glad nobody was hurt. But if a motorcycle served in front of me like that i would have done what you did, and If the panic stop didn't look like it would work, I'd start planning on eating some ditch, lol.

Maybe he was mad because you stopped at a regular Gas Station instead of a truck stop. I did that in training and my trainer was not happy. We had to go through some side streets to get back on the highway.

Not sure about the not eating part. So he wants you to drive on an empty stomach, low on energy, and falling asleep? Sounds like a bad idea.

And that is exactly correct gtown. There are the otr drivers that just drive,drive, drive drop and hook, and there are otr drivers that deliver, deliver, drive a little and deliver. And everything in between.

How are you going to come up with one set of rules for everybody?

Are you going to tell every pitcher in baseball that they are required to pitch 5 innings? The starters would be like "yeah! Only 5 innings" and the closers are going to be like " 5 innings is too much! "

Wish i had an answer, lol.

Cystuartfi wrote:

Totally OBLITERATE the 14 hour rule. Have 12 hours on duty each day and 12 hours combined off duty/sleeper berth. The only things you log on duty not driving would be pretrip, fueling, and post trip. As soon as you arrive at a shipper or receiver, switch to off duty and send in an arrival macro to your dispatcher to let them know you arent just loafing around. Anytime you stop for a break and you switch to off duty/sleeper berth, it STOPS your 12 hour clock and doesn't affect it until you have 12 hours off duty or sleeper berth. Then it will reset back to 12 or whatever you have left on your 60, whatever is less. When you hit 60 hours each week, do a 48 hour uninterrupted reset. In other words have the weekends off or something that resembles a weekend off, two days off in a row. Also any hours logged above 40 each week should be paid at time and a half. In other words whatever your cpm rate is, add half of that to your current cpm rate and any on duty time logged after that should be paid at the higher rate.

That's okay for OTR work, but on many Dedicated assignments (specifically retail store delivery), reduces the amount of work that can be accomplished in a day. I cannot log off-duty when I deliver to Walmart's. The live-unload requires the driver to be attentive to the operation and at times for a perishable reefer load, supervise what comes off and what goes back on. Many times 12 hours isn't enough time to complete a 6-stop load, the type that earns the highest pay.

I still believe Daniel's suggestion can satisfy the needs of most Interstate drivers; OTR, Regional and/or Dedicated.

I have tried several dog ramps. I would recommend the one from petsmart. It's a little on the expensive side ~$120 if i remember, but the quality is excellent.

In training i missed an "inspection station" in Florida that was also a weigh station. My trainer made me pull over, find the number and call the station.

They told us to keep going, but i remember that to this day. Lol.

**whoops, just realized that this thread is about logging sleeper. Sorry about that, lol.

Well then i agree with Rick that as far as the clock is concerned logging sleeper or off duty is basically the same except when it comes to the split break.

Why else can you log 5 hours in the sleeper and 5 off duty and satisfy the 10 hours needed to rest your 11 and 14. You can argue how you're supposed to show it on your logs but when it comes down to it, a 10 hour break is a 10 hour break.

Just a fyi.

I don't log any on duty time for fueling. I don't log any on duty time at the shippers or receivers. Haven't done so for the past year.

I just had a level 3 inspection done at a weigh station done a few weeks ago. They had me email my hos from my QC to them and the officer inspected them right in front of me. Nothing was ever said. I passed with no violations.

At our company we do have a set of rules they want us to follow that isn't federal (correct me if I'm wrong). For instance you can't be in sleeper for more than 24 hours and with team driving when one person drives the other person can only be off duty for 2 hours before they have to be in sleeper called the passenger rule.