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I have thought about just grtting my cdl-b, getting a job somewhere close to town driving dump trucks or something until I get off and then going for my cdl-a as well. Idk, I have got to do something. 38 years old working ny butt off at a tire shop aint getting it.

"For awhile now" - means it's going to take awhile (maybe QUITE AWHILE) for you to get all the way off, and feel OK.

Subox was never meant as a "maintenance drug" - and similar to methadone - the detox is usually worse than just getting off the Heroin (or whatever opiate you are trying to steer clear of) cold turkey. You're really sick for a week - and then you get better. Oxy is a little different - you feel like azz for a month (or so) and then you get better.

And even though you aren't "getting high" off it - Suboxone is a Schedule II Controlled Substance. Suboxone is not "specifically prohibited" by FMCSA regs - although Methadone is. A lot of DOT Medical Examiners consider the Opioid component

I've seen where DOT Medical Examiners have issued Medical Certificates - but for a company to hire someone on an Opioid/Agonist is a HIGH RISK PROPOSITION.

Even if you're doing "just fine" on it - and your Dr says so - if you get in an accident while taking it, the folks that are going to be looking to ASSIGN BLAME (that would be the LAWYERS) are going to attack your use of an opioid first.

So while Subox is better than DOPE - it's still not as good as BEING CLEAN. And I'm not trying to judge here - I have over 27 years 100% off the hard stuff.

So...

Be prepared to have most companies that do "company training" - just not want to take the risk of bringing someone on, that's on Subox.

Best of luck - prepare for a nasty detox. I have friends that have been on it for years too - that have also been trying to get OFF IT for quite awhile and would rather stay ON IT - than deal with the discomfort. How soon we forget what FULL BLOWN DOPESICK FELT LIKE.

I have a friend who DOES DRIVE (he's been an O/O for a couple of years) who's working on trying to get off Subox. He has been ON IT HIS ENTIRE DRIVING CAREER. That is - VoTech School, CRST, Malone & O/O. He gets his DOT Med Cards because he DOESN'T DISCLOSE that he's on it. He passes DOT Drug Tests - because urine screening DO NOT TEST FOR IT. He actually had an Subox IMPLANT. He's currently scheduled to do a 45 day detox in Colorado in couple of months, to get all the way off it.

Do I think he's right for "failing to disclose"? No I don't - that's LYING.

Here at TT - we would NEVER RECOMMEND THAT SOMEONE LIE OR FAIL TO DISCLOSE A MEDICATION OR DISQUALIFYING MEDICAL CONDITION.

That's just not how we roll.

Rick

If I can just get in the door and start driving. I have all the confidence in the world that I'll be off of it by next year recertification, but with thd type of work i do right now. There is no way in heck I can come off of it. It is way to physically demanding.

Country I can't say for sure what will happen. You may find an examiner who will certify you. But that really doesn't matter, The company you are trying to hire on with may not allow it regardless. Most companies will want you to medically qualify with one of their approved examiners. Doing this on your own might prove to be waste of time and money. You might want to put a hold on that for a bit.

My suggestion is to start applying to Paid CDL Training Programs and disclose that your are prescribed Suboxone by your Doctor. Be prepared to have your Doctor write a note on official letterhead stating that this will not affect or inhibit your ability to operate a CMV. I think you should (if you haven't already) talk with your Doctor who prescribed the medication and discuss your intentions to become a truck driver.

You should spend some time on the FMCSA's website reviewing the banned substances lists. Keep in mind Suboxone is a narcotic...most of these are forbidden. There are exceptions though, hopefully that will be the case for you.

Good luck.

I have been taking suboxone for a while now and it has saved my life. I have read that only certain doctors will certify you when you take suboxone. Even though it is prescribed to me. My question is this. If I am able to find a doctor to certify me. What obstacles will I run across after that? I know trucking companies also give drug tests. If it shows up on their test. Will it go down as a failed test or what? I no I don't want a failed test on my record. Also, I plan on trying to go to a company sponsored class, because I can't afford it on my own.

After someone said stopping distance . At vary. I looked at my state book that I downloaded as pdf file. Luckily my book has same stopping distance. It's word for word on what's on here about 32 feet and 450 and all that.

One other question i have though. So far I have made it to around page 56. I just finished coupling and ubcouplibg and the next section is doubles and triples. I have already study everything before that. So i should know what i need to for ait breaks, combination vehicle and general knowledge right? Or will log book question be on general knowledge? I am just trying not to flood my mind with unnecessary stuff at the moment until after I get my cdl permit. Then i can always go take test for endorsements right? Or do i have to do it all at same time?

Country this is great to start putting this in your mind to remember but when you go to school they will teach you on that states specific test. As long as you study you will pass it in roughly 3 days.

On this one I wasnt sure of the answer. So i clicked on the find the answer link. Then after reading the part of the manual that was supposed to have the answer. I figured it was a typo on the question and it meant added stomping distance since 32 feet was an option and it was also in the part of the manual that supposedly had the answer in it.

I think that question in particular is common sense. The question isn't trying to ask you specifically how many feet it is to stop a truck but it's probably trying to see if you understand the difference between feet and yards.

A truck going 55mph is going to take a heck of a lot longer than 35 or 100 ft to stop but isn't going to take 450 yards or over 4 football fields that's ridiculous.

So there's only really one answer that makes sense. :)

Exactly, but the correct answer was 450. Nowhere did it say anything about 450 feet. I am just pointing out that when you click the thing that says click here for the answer. On some it doesnt give the answer.

the stopping distance at 55mph is more than 300 feet and increases at higher speed.

I'm not sure what you are saying?

Well, the correct answer was the top anawer according to this website. That is why i thought they messed up and put trailer instead of tractor. I just have another confusing question about and. Asking where the malfunction light was. The 3 of the 4 answers I could chose from were technically correct according to the manual. The answers were left side, front, back and right side. According to the manual it's on the left side at the front or back, but it was flagged as wrong when I picked left side and correct answer was supposed to be front. I understand it takes a lot to get this website running and keep it running. I am by no means trying to be an ass or anything. I am just trying to help correct some of the mistakes for people who may need to use it for their CDL. I truly appreciate all the work the admins of the site have put into it. It has helped me a lot so far.

If I am not mistaken. Shouldn't this ve Tractor Protection Valve and not trailer protection valve?

I think the answer is the emergency spring brake valve (red knob), but I agree that it's not clear from the section in the manual.

Exactly, but the correct answer was 450. Nowhere did it say anything about 450 feet. I am just pointing out that when you click the thing that says click here for the answer. On some it doesnt give the answer.

the stopping distance at 55mph is more than 300 feet and increases at higher speed.

I'm not sure what you are saying?

If I am not mistaken. Shouldn't this ve Tractor Protection Valve and not trailer protection valve?