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Greetings all! I am a rookie driver originally from Fort Worth, Texas but currently residing in Kentucky. I started working in EMS in 2012 but recently left for good to pursue truck driving. Prior to that I was in the Army and served as both a Cavalry Scout and Infantryman. I have degrees and diplomas in Paralegal studies, Fire/Rescue Technology, and Paramedicine. I am a proud Linehaul driver for Estes Express Lines!
Posted: 6 years, 5 months ago
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I’m sorry you don’t believe me but there is nothing I can do about that. It did indeed happen. Did I push him away from me after he walked up and smacked me? Sure, but my thought process was I’m not going to risk going to jail or risk losing my career over some old angry person. He hit me because he apparently I adjusted his seat and a few other things while I was driving. Like I said, I was his first trainee. And likely his last. I also did not want to be stranded at a customer, that then asked us to drop our trailer and leave because he decided to try and pick a fight. My though process was keep my mouth shut and get back to the terminal and square this away and link up with someone else.
These things happen daily. Like you said, Prime is a large company and you cannot possibly tell me you know every single drivers experience there as well as every single trainers training style and abilities. You don’t have to believe it. But it doesn’t make it any of it any less true.
Nothing I said knocked Prime even remotely and if it did that was not my intentions. They did indeed contact me both by phone and via email months after wards asking if I wanted to get back in and finish my training.
Again, it happened. I still believe it is a great company. Just not the company for me. I will still encourage people to apply there. Just because I got two bad eggs out of 100+ trainers is not the companies fault. Neither has had a trainee before.
Also, I know we could have dropped the trailer somewhere but I wasn’t upset I was explaining why he was upset. He was a rather angry person with an excuse and story for everything.
Im curious..."hit me in front of a customer". hit you how? like tapped you on the arm and said "lets go"? or hit you in a joking manner or what? there is a huge differemce between touching and punching. granted, this is a busniess and touching is inappropriate even in a back slapping type of manner. why didnt you call the police since you had witnesses? even as a woman, i think if someone hit me, my reaction would be to hit back. so did you? what was your reaction?
im finding some of this hard to believe after being at Prime for 3 years and a trainer for 1. do.some.people have bad tempers...sure. a drug.problem possibly. that one could have been drug tested and handled. immediately.
The most unbelievable for.me is calling you back after you left months prior. By your own admission, Prime has 100+ students per week come in. Why would they need to call back those who left? and why waste time on those by changing DACs month later.
Delivering 2 days early is not that big a deal either. Drop it at a yard or swao w8th a solo driver who can sit on it. or just take the 34 hour break to reset both driver clocks.
Dustan to answer your question...a nearby team would have been sent to pick up the student and truck and take it back to a terminal. With 8000 drivers it wouldnt take long. i know a trainer whose wife had a heart attack and wasnt expected to live. he flew.home and a team.was sent to bring his student and truck back to the terminal.
Posted: 6 years, 5 months ago
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While you are right I also didn’t handle it properly. On my second trainer I had contacted the dispatcher and was rather angry and demanding and did not really keep my cool like I should have. While the events that took place were unfortunate I still could have went about the situation differently. Regardless of what occurs between a student and trainer there should still be a certain amount of professionalism displayed when interacting with your dispatchers. After all, they are in this to provide for their families not get involved in drama. Especially when some dispatchers might have 100+ drivers they have to keep track of every single day.
Side note, I did manage to get the violent trainer on camera once throwing his head seat and kicking over trash cans and screaming across the parking lot. Lol, at the time it was rather comical to see a grown man have a melt down over being given the wrong delivery date(resulted in being there 2 days early), not being able to unload early, Found out it was supposed to be tarped, and then being placed on hold by our dispatcher lol...
Geez, that's a hell of a thing to do to a person who just wants to get through and move on to the next step! Getting hit by a trainer is inexcusable conduct by any standard. A coke head is a whole other thing altogether. Imagine if he had gotten arrested and you were just stuck with a truck and no trainer. I wonder how they would have handled that one given that a student was simply caught in the middle of it all.
Posted: 6 years, 5 months ago
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Congrats!
Prime is a wonderful company and I personally do not have anything negative to say. I got my CDL through Prime. I just wanted to give you a heads up, If you go through the Springfield terminal for orientation make sure you stay on top of all the tasks they give you. Also, the medical staff that conducts your DOT physicals can be rude but be aware that they have 100+ applicants a week that they have to put through and get asked the same exact questions dozens of times daily. Try to be patient with them. During my orientation we started with 100-110 people(Not sure the exact number but there was not enough seats for everyone) and by day 4 of orientation we only had 60 or less and there were 10-20 of them that were probably sent home after day 4 because they had not finished a lot of things. The biggest thing to worry about is keep your cool and be patient. Also, make sure you bring a little spending cash just in case you accidentally go over the amount you are allowed to spend on the little meal cards they give you plus there is a culver's, applebees, gas station and walmart near by but be careful walking around especially at night because it is not the safest area. It is the first Walmart I have ever seen with armed security patrolling the lot.
I assume you have your CDL already so you are basically going to be team driving. Your trainer should ride in the front seat for a couple days at least just to make sure you are squared away but if not then talk to him or her about it. I trained on flatbed and I had two trainers. Where I messed up is my first trainer was a great trainer but he had a serious drug problem and would bring prostitutes into the truck. I requested a new trainer as I did not feel comfortable at all and explained why. I am unsure if he still works there. He is a hard worker but a big liability. My second trainer was literally physically abusive and violent. I spent about a week with him before he actually hit me in front of the customer. I then requested a new trainer however when I switched trainers the first time I also switched dispatchers. My new dispatcher I guess took it as me being difficult and decided to let me go and leave me in the parking lot to sleep in my car for two days and both him and all the other POC's I had would not return my calls so I went home and security would not let me go see anyone either and I can understand why I was terminated and understand the company's stand point as they do not have time for drama. They ended up calling me a couple months later out of the blue asking if I would come back but I decided not to. Unfortunately after I decided not to they changed my DAC from "resigned" to "discharged" making it a little more difficult to find a driving job. What I am getting at is go into this with an open mind, prepare to be patient, and above all be flexible. Thousands of students have completed this program and for most people it should not be an issue and for me it shouldn't have been an issue but I made it an issue.
I am not suggesting you take any form of physical abuse or tolerate someone snorting cocaine on the truck but I am saying be prepared to have a heart to heart with your trainer. Looking back, had I done that and flat out said "Look man I need you to cut this crap out because it is making me uncomfortable and I don't want to get a new trainer" I have no doubt in my mind he would have stopped or at least not do those things around me. At the time though all I had was "tunnel vision" and thought "man I need out of here fast". I was also both of these trainers very first trainee.
All of it could have been avoided had I went about it properly the first time. Also, if you need hometime in TNT they will do their best to get you home but it will not be often. The best thing is to tell your dispatcher as soon as possible. You should get to meet your dispatcher and recruiter towards the end of orientation.
Also, just a little disclaimer...I am not some truck driver with years of experience. I am 25 year old father of 2, now a pretty level headed person, that is still a noob but I do drive currently but still less than a year of experience...but I am with my second, and hopefully last, company... That was also the only job I had ever been "terminated" from.
Sorry for the long post but normally I am a very flexible person and I thought I could share how quickly it can turn from 0 to 100 just by how you go about things and how you say things.
Good luck my friend! Prime is truthfully a wonderful company and they truly do their best to set their drivers up for success and take care of their drivers! The President is a great guy and often can be found playing basketball down in the gym with drivers!
Posted: 6 years, 5 months ago
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How NOT to Have a Good Looking Application...
I had a rough job history until I started following this site years ago. I have been slowly working on getting better. However, I did not have the same issues the driver did per say, but I had a rough time adjusting and finding my fit when I got out of the Army. I also worked 3 or 4 jobs at a time and discovered that this apparently looks bad to new employers as all they see is someone that worked 4 jobs in a year rather than someone working 4 jobs simultaneously while raising 2 kids and going to school. In my mind I thought "Man I look dedicated!" but that's not really how most companies see it apparently. I also am willing to admit a majority of my past issues were self inflicted.
It is surprising to hear how many applications you get though! And its wild seeing job history like this. I hope something clicks for this person! I was involved in a single vehicle rollover accident in 2016 in my personal vehicle with no tickets or citations issued and no property damaged and no one else involved except for myself and I had minor injuries. This was prior to having a CDL. How do companies look at this? I have some say no and some have said come back in a few years and then I have had some say they do not care. If it is an insurance thing how do they know without checking with their insurance? Some say safety has to clear me? I do not have to worry much right now as I thankfully have a job but I mainly just wanted to know how they determine these things?
Posted: 6 years, 5 months ago
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Nearing the end of week 24 of 2018!
That's great Feanor! I would love to get out west more! It has been years since I have been out that way. That does suck about not getting home on time but at least they are paying you more and not jerking your chain so to speak! I hope your week is going better as well!
Been sitting all weekend here in Centralia WA cause they couldn't get me a load home for the weekend.
Meh they told me this happens once in a while in training, and they are paying me extra atleast.
I deliver this morning and then got a nice long load to Montana.
The year is going very well as a whole! So far I've stuck to my plan and it has not failed me.
Posted: 6 years, 5 months ago
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Nearing the end of week 24 of 2018!
I definitely know the feeling! I took almost a week off while I was at Prime and I was very nervous to get back in the truck as I was rusty. Hope this week is going better!
I'm at home right now taking my week off. I'm kinda nervous about that first day back on the road after being off for a week. Hell, sometimes even just 3 days off rusts me.
Posted: 6 years, 5 months ago
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Nearing the end of week 24 of 2018!
This is great to hear! Keep hitting it hard man! I’m jealous! I’m stuck at home in Kentucky where it seems to be ridiculously humid! I’d rather be on the road and out west!
I'm in Oakley, KS right now, waiting for my 10 to time out so I can slip over to Pueblo and deliver, then head home to Denver. My year is going about as well I as I could ask for, I'm six months in to my first year with Knight:D
Posted: 6 years, 5 months ago
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Nearing the end of week 24 of 2018!
Greetings everyone!
We are only about two weeks away from 2018 being half over! Where did the time go?! Where are all of you this weekend and how is your year going thus far??? I apologize, I have been laying dormant for a couple years now and have been silently taking the advice of many of you for a long time and man do I appreciate all of you! I hope everyone is having a wonderful week!
P.S.
I think for 2019 we should hold a friendly competition and see who can squeeze the most miles in by the end of the year!
Anyways, Just trying to spread some positive vibes y'all's way! Rock on y'all!
Posted: 6 years, 5 months ago
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Hey Tim!
It is always a good thing to have options. My suggestion is weigh the pro's and con's of each company. What appeals to you the most? Hometime? Reefer/Dry Van/Flatbed? Pay? or even what part of the country would you like to travel? Every company has their niche' per-say when it comes to recruiting drivers. I cannot speak to any driver training program other than Prime. However, If I was to pick one of those companies I would go with Swift. Out of those Swift would match my wants and needs best. Above all, I suggest picking one that suits you best and develop your own experience rather than depend on other drivers personal experiences as they will vary greatly. Also, try and remain positive throughout school and your OTR training regardless of who you choose to go with as it will be challenging mentally. It is a big adjustment especially having to share a small box the size of most bathrooms with another human being for 1 to 4 months at a time. Good luck!
Posted: 6 years, 5 months ago
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Out of the shadows
I have also been in EMS for many years and served in the Army. I have dealt with difficult, angry, and violent people often. My natural reaction isn’t to start a fist fight in the middle of a customer. It’s to deescalate the situation and reasonably avoid conflict until we can get into a better environment to address the situation.