Profile For Robert S.

the source I gave wasn't from that page

You didn't give a source at all.

your welcome to make your own opinion

That's just it. This isn't a topic that's open to opinion. Either you can have your CDL revoked for failing to pay back a company-sponsored training program or you can't. We're not talking about the best tasting cookies. We're talking about a legal matter and if you can't demonstrate one single example of this ever happening then we're going to assume it hasn't happened. If you can't demonstrate that it has happened then you shouldn't have brought it up in the first place.

This will be my last post on this topic maybe forums but I will say this last sentence is true your, First hasn't been true on a lot your post your forums a person like me and everyone else as such you have you and you do add them.

This is the best I can do I don't know him personally this is a quote from a lawyer in FL

So you don't know anyone that this has happened to and you can't prove that it has ever happened. But somehow you know for a fact that it happens.

Beautiful. Just the type of sources of information we love to share with our visitors.

By the way, you Googled something regarding losing your license and student loans and the quote you gave came from this article, which was the first result on Google's listings:

Getting Through Tough Times: Which Bill Should You Pay First?

So if you were being honest I think you would have to admit you have no idea what you're talking about. You have no examples, you have no proof, and you don't know anyone this has ever happened to.

Failing to pay child support can have serious consequences.

Everything after that statement was referring to that statement. Nowhere does it say your CDL will be revoked and you'll have to do the testing all over again if you fail to pay back a company-sponsored training program. Not to mention, I don't know that company-sponsored training even qualifies officially as a student loan or not. But I've known people who failed to pay back student loans and none of them ever lost their license or mentioned the possibility.

Unfortunately I'm going to have to delete all of these comments if there is no proof that your CDL can be revoked. We simply don't spread rumors that way. We're not called TruckingRumors after all.

If you wish to add your opinion I do not care. I have stated why I cannot so I gave you the best example and CDL is a license the statement referred to all three if you actually interpreted it correctly. the source I gave wasn't from that page but your welcome to make your own opinion. personally don't care I came here to help this individual I gain nothing personally from this.

Fortunately, the recordings are there, unfortunately, however, all parties involved signed a nondisclosure I cannot reveal the actual case you may, however, look it up I cannot confirm even if you found such records if it was his case. I am not a lawyer have no access to the files nor would I under the paperwork signed for that case. There is more than one case like this but like I have said it is very rare.

So it happens, but you have no way of proving it. I'm sorry, but that's not going to work for us. If you can't even demonstrate one single example of something happening then I'm going to assume it doesn't happen.

By the way, how do you know so much about these cases? Everyone signed a non-disclosure agreement but apparently it was disclosed to you. How does that happen?

This is the best I can do I don't know him personally this is a quote from a lawyer in FL "Do you owe child support, back taxes, or student loans? Failing to pay child support can have serious consequences. You may be held in contempt of court, lose your driver's license, or be sent to jail. Liens may be placed on your property, and you may not receive your tax refund. If your income has dropped sharply, you may be able to get the court order modified. Call your attorney for more information, said Prasse." if you want and offical case ask someone who pass there Bar exam and practices.

but [I] have done enough work with lawyers and saw sometimes [a CDL holder] would lose their CDL for refusing to pay the company back. Even a Judge will side with the company if the person refuses to pay the company back remove his CDL its a rare case, however, it has happened before.

Robert, I have approved your comment on the condition that you can point us to at least one example where a judge has revoked a person's CDL for failing to fulfill a contract with a company-sponsored training program. Personally I have never heard of this happening before and I'm unaware of any authority that a private company would have to influence a state to revoke your driver's license.

I know that a driver's license can be revoked for failure to pay child support or a traffic ticket, but those are the only situations I am aware of.

So if you can point us to an article or a legal case of some sort which proves that this has happened in the past we would be extremely interested in learning more about it.

I think we're all under the impression that this is the way it works:

So in short, no you won't be arrested (it is a civil matter, not criminal) and your CDL will not be affected. No trucking company in the United States has any effect on the validity of your CDL.

Fortunately, the recordings are there, unfortunately, however, all parties involved signed a nondisclosure I cannot reveal the actual case you may, however, look it up I cannot confirm even if you found such records if it was his case. I am not a lawyer have no access to the files nor would I under the paperwork signed for that case. There is more than one case like this but like I have said it is very rare.

Have any of you work with lawyers, or more so seen all cases where a judge has sided with and completely with the student who failed to pay payments, and his obligations while he gained CDL Through the companies CDL program because of thats what I am referring too. I have never taken the Bar exam, but done enough work with lawyers and saw sometimes they would lose their CDL for refusing to pay the company back. Even a Judge will side with the company if the person refuses to pay the company back remove his CDL its a rare case, however, it has happened before.

They cannot force an individual to never be able to use the trade skill forever, however, making him redo the whole process of getting the CDL in extreme cases has happened.

Warning From Truckingtruth! You're about to read what we believe may be bad information from Robert so follow this conversation through before believing any of what says.

I went through Swift for CDL training and signed a contract saying that I would work for them for a year. But after I got to orientation a bunch of family problems started happening so I decided not to do trucking right now. Since I breached the contract what will happen now? I won’t get arrested will I? Also when I do decide to start trucking will it be hard for me to find a job? Thanks.

I can only state what happened to me in past look up First Year Pay Totals With Prime post it is recent if you like to know a little bit or don't either way. The main thing makes sure you pay the debt back on payments or something period. Make sure you account to exact wording you told whoever why you are leaving them to write it down for reference, Also everything they had told you to write it down or try to remember you have a big commitment you leaving for whatever reason. I am not always for lawyers but I would advise you may ask a free quote for a CDL protector if you are near any decent town you should have one, Because they can have your CDL removed if you went through there program to obtain a CDL , I Don't know what conversations you had with them would suggest any future ones written down, if you are contacted by a lawyer tell them you are recording the conversation and make sure your clear on telling them that if you do a lot more issues will arise if you don't !!

Like I said I have no idea what has been said or hasn't one thing I do know lawyer involved you had better get one if you can if you care about your credit and or CDL. Because the company only will look after its lost investment first being you then determine if you will come back or not based on conversations but don't take their word unless it in writing protect yourself. I am not employed or ever been employed by them I don't know how they operate but they did potently lose an investment so what I know base what has been said They will want the money sooner rather than later because they don't know who you are, to be honest.

This is only my two cents.

Yes I understand that as much, anyone, I had a horrible trainer the driver manager refused to give me a new trainer on top fact I had plans to drive to my terminal and talk to a manager the very day I was gonna get a call stating my family member had issues breathing and she was 8 years old I had to drop everything get down to my hometown and forget everything else. Getting a cab in middle nowhere in Florida to greyhound or plane Was very considering taking buddy mine plane from Florida that he even offered let me fly there. I took a greyhound got there during this process I told the Driver manager I had to take care of this first and would be back in 8 days. When I was 5 days in I received a suit from the company for 8k and a lean on my CDL my attorney brought it down to 1200 and I was not to drive for 52 weeks. That was the deal no big deal because I have other ways from welding to operating a plane. The reason I wanted CDL simple I was tired doing same old thing another thing I will say is you are like me save 20% your paycheck any way you can for savings.

I have a friend who just returned back from the overseas military reasons he is considering trucking I suggested a few but he wants cold hard facts on what to expect and to be expected of him. I will recommend this to him and he will view later, I wish I could tell all my buddies who served who wished for a decent living career vs the quick cash of oil field and being broke when it ends while its great you never know when the number is up one my uncles did this my brother used to now is a surveyor with a close family, friend great for him good money and still keep in shape 5 miles a day like old times and will be like normal. I am not gonna say oil field is bad but one day your body just cannot continue same old same old and it is nice to have a backup plan in place for that day.

Robert, without almost no punctuation or proofreading it's incredibly difficult to follow what you're saying. I appreciate your input but please proofread your stuff. Hit the "preview" button next to the "submit" button to see what your comment is going to look like when it goes live.

Thanks!

I will consider this but when I don't have the motivation to for it also I used to be a lot worse English is not my first language either though America was built on many languages despite what people think it being only English. I also might like you all to suffer you consider it hope I don't change the deal lol

Thanks, I read it sounds to me was never into details just thought he would wing it, first being dude was a smoker, 2nd they way he stored the propane was an unsafe manner, I have many more issues the info is very very limited just based on the info. First off in my case, I know how to put all kinds of fires I was trained for such things and how to prevent them. there numerous list I can go in fact reminds the dude should never have propane in his cab because of his past life choices. let us add on the top fact he couldn't smell the propane leak another major issue first would be a low sound along with a very very distinct odor so he had bad hearing and couldn't smell, okay have any of yall smoked in a truck, My uncle did when I was young he acted like he didn't give crap where his ashes went but would always look when they fell off so he could actually clean them later, hes not the only trucker smoker I know does that and he used to be an owner operator. I have an idea what happened. He sounds to me just a very very lazy person, not detailed no idea how he passed a medical dot but did let us go with it because his eyes are shot, cant hear, or smell. I could list more if I know more about the case like was there stuff blocking the path to exit did he have so much stuff in there he couldn't see far, regardless his are shot with depth perception. this is all just one scenario. I have two others well 3 but involves something really unrealistic from the reports.

Propane like anything improperly used can be very very dangerous if you never take it seriously you don't need to be around it most newer propane have a safety device on them or in them. That being said he should never have been in the Truck. I can tell you many stores or other means of cooking and involves most them around lighter fluid. there are many methods also to get the fluid out those bottles I will leave it at that.