Profile For Brock N.

G-Town, I think we are agreeing, but talking past each other. I think we both agree that this approach to circumventing the ELD is a bad way to try and save clocks. I happily defer to your knowledge and experience when it comes to better ways to use the clock and plan your trips.

My only point in posting was just to say, that if an ELD is built to be compliant with the certification rules, distance does not matter. It will move to the drive line based on speed. If an ELD does not move to the drive line based on speed, it isn't compliant with the ELD Mandate. Bigger companies can, and do, legally make additional restrictions to the systems they have built for their fleets.

And, it bears mentioning, a lot of bigger companies are still using AOBRDs, instead of ELDs. An AOBRD can have a much more flexible set of parameters and still be legal. Nothing I've said about ELDs has any bearing on AOBRDs.

It wasn't an arbitrary statement, it was a statement based on the FMCSA's guidlines. You asked me to provide them, but then you provided it before I could so I didn't.

You are correct that moving in a Wal-Mart should be a yard move, but Chuck S. was describing a method to avoid using yard move to do it. He was, essentially, giving advice on trying to skirt the regulations. If you put your ELD in yard move, it puts your On Duty. If you are On Duty, you can't get a 10-hour reset. The whole point of his post was explaining how to move the truck while remaining Off Duty for 10 hours to get the reset. I don't understand why you are being hostile to my explanation of why his method is based on an incomplete understanding of how the ELD works.

What brought me to the forums months ago was a desire to understand more about truckers and the job they do. I took a job in support side of the transportation industry, and didn't want to rely on filtered reports from other people about the challenges drivers face and the methods they use to overcome them. I've gained a lot of knowledge from reading posts by people like you, and Brett, and a lot of others. When I saw someone make a factually inaccurate post about an aspect of trucking I have some pretty in-depth inside knowledge of, I decided to make an account and try to give back a little to a community I have gained a lot of knowledge from.

What the original poster described is not a yard move. A yard move would put you On Duty, which would interrupt the 10-hour reset he's describing. He's talking about moving the truck without going On Duty at all.

There is no FMCSA regulation on how an ELD has to handle yard moves. The ELD my company makes will allow you to drive indefinitely on a yard move, because the law allows that. As long as you don't get on a public road, you can drive for miles and miles on yard move. There's very few situations where that would be legal, but that has nothing to do with the ELD recording your movements.

The algorithm you're describing G-Town sounds like something put in place by your company. A lot of bigger companies have systems that exceed the ELD mandate requirements.

Danielsahn, it sounds like you are running an AOBRD. If you had it before the ELD mandate went into effect last year, it has a completely different set of rules than an ELD made after the mandate.

That's not how the ELDs work. They mark your truck as moving based on your speed, not the distance your odometer has rolled. If you go over 5mph, you're moving and you'll be put on the Drive line. This is an FMCSA regulation, and any ELD that isn't using 5mph as the definition of moving, isn't compliant.