Profile For Mark L.

Just read that, yes, its true that you can wear what you want. But now, if you get in an accident and you're wearing flip flops are other loose foorwear, you can be held accountable!! As of this writing, I just spoke to a driver about his wearing of flip flops in a warehouse. He said he doesn't have shoes. If he gets injured, its not the customers' fault!! You are told to wear covered shoes..i.e., sneakers, boots ETC for safety while in drivers school. You should take that advise with you all the time. Same thing with wearing shorts. No law, but for safety reasons you should wear long pants, jeans or similar to...not pajamas or other loose clothing. A lot of drivers think they're on vacation wearing flip flops and Hawaiian shirts... you work in "commercial" emplyment....wear the proper clothing and protect yourselves!! Yes, I wore shorts for a short stint pulling a food tanker. But when it was time to pull hoses, I put on my overalls....when I was done, I took them off. Easy.... I think companies should protect themselves from insurance claims on drivers not wearing proper clothing for the jobs they're doing.. Mark 18yr driver

This kind of bootstraps off the "Elite" discussion that went off the rails and got itself DELETED.

The question was raised regarding driving a CMV with Flip-Flops, and someone poked me for a "Rickipedia Ruling" on what regs may or may not cover this. Then it turned into dogs urinating on trees, then on each other - and the entire thread went POOF!

At any rate...

There is NOTHING IN THE FMSCA's (49 CFR 3XX) regarding "proper footwear" for operating a CMV. So flip-flops are not "illegal" to drive in. Actually, neither is driving BAREFOOT.

As far as Federal FMSCA/DOT Regulations go - barefoot, flip-flops, 6" spiked heels. It's ALL GOOD.

Contrary to popular belief (or urban legend) there are NO STATE LAWS PROHIBITING FLIPS OR BAREFOOT DRIVING EITHER - for a car or CMV - none on the books.

Zero, Zilch, Nada - NONE.

NOW - if you get in an ACCIDENT, and being barefoot or wearing flips CONTRIBUTED TO the accident (my sandal got caught under the brake pedal, I got distracted trying to get it loose and rolled over the mini-van full of kids on the way home from the soccer game), you could get cited for "careless driving" or something of that nature - but not for the flips or barefoot itself.

In order for something to be AGAINST THE LAW - there has to be a regulation or statute on the books SPECIFICALLY SAYING THAT IT IS. This is a common law principle.

Same principle why - if there isn't a "No U-Turn Sign" at the intersection, you are ALLOWED to make a U-Turn. Or why drug chemists can change one molecule in a substance, and it is LEGAL until that composition is SPECIFICALLY OUTLAWED (aka: designer drugs).

Now - one of the posters who responded, stated that it was "against OSHA Regs" - so I did some digging there.

And I did find something there in the section pertaining to the trucking industry, under the header of 29 CFR 1910 Subpart I - 1910.136 - Personal Protection Equipment - Foot Protection, which generally states:

29 CFR 1910.136(a) - General requirements. The employer shall ensure that each affected employee uses protective footwear when working in areas where there is a danger of foot injuries due to falling or rolling objects, or objects piercing the sole, or when the use of protective footwear will protect the affected employee from an electrical hazard, such as a static-discharge or electric-shock hazard, that remains after the employer takes other necessary protective measures.

But this says NOTHING about a "requirement" for ANY TYPE OF FOOTWEAR in order to DRIVE a truck. And I find it HIGHLY UNLIKELY that OSHA inspectors are hiding out at Truck Stops, looking to cite drivers when they get out of their trucks in flops on the fuel island. Nor is it likely that DOT officers at a coop, are going to snatch you up for an OSHA Reg (especially one this vague). OSHA reg violations - usually specify a penalty for violations - this one does not.

OSHA regs are usually something that is used AFTER THE FACT - like an injury or death was caused by NOT FOLLOWING the regs - a complaint is made TO OSHA - they investigate and find a violation - the company is cited - and the penalty is determined at an administrative hearing. Such violations can usually form the basis of "proof of negligence" in a subsequent civil suit (someone gets killed - family sues).

So don't think OSHA is going to get you nailed either.

The poster that brought up the OSHA thing, also brought up that DOT Officials can cite you for ANYTHING - INCLUDING VIOLATING COMPANY POLICY.

And yet again - "company policies" are not part of the CFR or State Statutes, therefore, a DOT Officer CANNOT CITE YOU FOR VIOLATING A COMPANY POLICY. The mere notion of this, had me spitting coffee on my keyboard.

So there you have it.

The ACTUAL TRUTH - regarding Flip Flops and Driving A Truck.

Because we ARE TRUCKING TRUTH.

Rick