PTI Vs ATI
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The way it was explained to me was that the pretrip inspection is to make sure the truck is safe to drive. Checking fluids and the all important kingpin and stuff like that. The post trip is just to make sure that nothing broke during the day, like a radiator hose or a tire started going flat. Stuff that can be repaired during your 10 hr break so you dont lose a bunch of time.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Ezcore is confused:
Whats the point of After Trip Inspection if you are a bout to drop a load off and pick up one right after the other? Wouldn't you just do another Pre-trip-inspection again?
Your question seems to be - do you preform a pre-trip inspection like you were taught & had to pass for your CDL between trips - "between" dropping and hooking trailers?
If that's the case, not exactly. The official under the hood/brakes/in-cab inspection is the pre-trip you do at the start of your driving shift. When you hook up a new trailer, you need to do a shorter pre-trip on the trailer. Make sure the trailer is hooked up properly, no air leaks, brakes look good, etc. This "pre-trip" is not documented anywhere, though you do it for safety and regulation compliance.
Pre-trip Inspection:
A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.
Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Thanks for the replys guys!
Also I read in my Georgia CDL manual that 15 minutes has to be taken to do the pre-trip inspection so that it shows on records I have done it? So when people look back on my log I guess they can see I took 15 minutes out of my 14hrs to do the pre-trip-inspection? I'm confused a bout that part greatly, because why can't I check my load (PTI) then start my clock?...
I bet i'm going to annoy a bunch of people with my rookie questions.
Also i'd like to add again that i'm going to be team trucking for CRST hopfully (Thats the plan at least for the first year of my trucking career till I can get a flatbed company).
Pre-trip Inspection:
A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.
Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Sorry for double posting but I can't find the edit button, I'd like to say what you guys are saying makes great sense, I just dont see how it applys when you have two truckers in the same truck, do they have to both do PTI and ATI at beggining and end of each shifts?
Also I read in my Georgia CDL manual that 15 minutes has to be taken to do the pre-trip inspection so that it shows on records I have done it? So when people look back on my log I guess they can see I took 15 minutes out of my 14hrs to do the pre-trip-inspection? I'm confused a bout that part greatly, because why can't I check my load (PTI) then start my clock?...
You actually, physically need to do your pre-trip. It is a On Duty Not Driving activity. DOT inspectors want to see that. It's not a waste of time. Yes, you take 15 minutes out of your life, every day you drive, to do that. Here's a link to my TT topic that's my touch-stone for always doing a pre-trip: Why do a pre-trip?
I bet i'm going to annoy a bunch of people with my rookie questions.
Jeez Ezcore! That's what the forum is all about! Ask away!
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Pre-trip Inspection:
A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.
Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
BMI:
Body mass index (BMI)
BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:
- Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
- Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit
It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.
Thanks for the replys guys!
Also I read in my Georgia CDL manual that 15 minutes has to be taken to do the pre-trip inspection so that it shows on records I have done it? So when people look back on my log I guess they can see I took 15 minutes out of my 14hrs to do the pre-trip-inspection? I'm confused a bout that part greatly, because why can't I check my load (PTI) then start my clock?...
I bet i'm going to annoy a bunch of people with my rookie questions.
Also i'd like to add again that i'm going to be team trucking for CRST hopfully (Thats the plan at least for the first year of my trucking career till I can get a flatbed company).
I'm heading too crst on the 28th of next month, I also live in Ga in Ringgold. I have my cdl-b so I got a good bit of knowledge with the pre trip and post trip. I would say do it for safety. Better safe than sorry
Pre-trip Inspection:
A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.
Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
My trainer set his time to on duty not driving and sat in the truck for 15 mins....
I figure if I'm gonna set myself on the computer I may as well actually do the inspection. Why sit there and do nothing?
Awesome thanks big time man, you guys are a friendly bunch of this website!
Oh ok, so regardless if we are team trucking, we always have to do this inspection, to make sure we do not endanger ourselves or others going down the road even if my teamate turn to drive he has to do the PTI. I got it now :) .
Awesome thanks big time man, you guys are a friendly bunch of this website!
Oh ok, so regardless if we are team trucking, we always have to do this inspection, to make sure we do not endanger ourselves or others going down the road even if my teamate turn to drive he has to do the PTI. I got it now :) .
I'm going to Iowa to there company school. What date are you heading up there? I may see you. I noticed some of the info about there school on here may be out dated. Like they have there own school now. It cost nothing up front. They also provide meals ( Breakfast and lunch monday-friday) as well as a $40.00 meal stipend. I can forward someone the details if the need it for an updated.
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Whats the point of After Trip Inspection if you are a bout to drop a load off and pick up one right after the other? Wouldn't you just do another Pre-trip-inspection again? Also if you are team trucking why do you need to do After trip inspection if your teamate is going to do another pre trip inspection? I'm very ingorant to all of this obviously and do not understand.
I plan on going to CDL company/school (CRST) next 20 days and just very cofnused a bout the whole journey.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles: