Why Take The Keys From The Ignition And Put Them In Your Pocket During The Pre-trip Inspection?

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PPGER's Comment
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Okay, I have mostly been through the High Road course, just got my DOT physical done, and was looking over the Arizona CDL manual before going in. Anyway, in the review questions for section 2.1, it asks "Why put the starter switch key in your pocket cduring the pre-trip inspection?"

I have read section 2.1 three times and I never see that question specifically answered.

So, what IS the official answer?

Thanks.

Pre-trip Inspection:

A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.

Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Okay, I have mostly been through the High Road course, just got my DOT physical done, and was looking over the Arizona CDL manual before going in. Anyway, in the review questions for section 2.1, it asks "Why put the starter switch key in your pocket cduring the pre-trip inspection?"

I have read section 2.1 three times and I never see that question specifically answered.

So, what IS the official answer?

Thanks.

How about you're pre-tripping the right drive axle brakes. Another person decides that tractor needs to be moved and hops into the driver seat.

Pre-trip Inspection:

A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.

Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

PPGER's Comment
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Sure, I was thinking that the reason was to make sure no one started the truck while you were inspecting it -- kinda like when I was checking my propeller on my ultralight -- wanted to make sure that the mags were off and the key was not in the ignition! -- but it never says anything in the manual about why.

For all the other review questions so far in the manual, you can find almost the exact wording in the book. I don't think that question will even come up on the test, and if it does, it will still be multiple choice so I not too worried, but I was wondering.

Errol V.'s Comment
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The key thing might be a part of your skills test pre-trip!

G-Town's Comment
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Okay, I have mostly been through the High Road course, just got my DOT physical done, and was looking over the Arizona CDL manual before going in. Anyway, in the review questions for section 2.1, it asks "Why put the starter switch key in your pocket cduring the pre-trip inspection?"

I have read section 2.1 three times and I never see that question specifically answered.

,

So, what IS the official answer?

Thanks.

I think Errol hit the nail on the head...it's really part of the test.

While I was in school there was an instructor who basically dared anyone to forget that part of the pre-trip test so that he could flunk them, forcing them to re-test and risking a strike. Since no one called his bluff by accidently or purposely omitting this, not sure if would actually make good on his promise. Make no mistake about it though, he was trying to make a point of emphasizing safety.

Another thought...if the keys are in your pocket when you are not behind the wheel, you can never lock yourself out of the truck.

Pre-trip Inspection:

A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.

Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Serah D.'s Comment
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Sure, I was thinking that the reason was to make sure no one started the truck while you were inspecting it -- kinda like when I was checking my propeller on my ultralight -- wanted to make sure that the mags were off and the key was not in the ignition! -- but it never says anything in the manual about why.

For all the other review questions so far in the manual, you can find almost the exact wording in the book. I don't think that question will even come up on the test, and if it does, it will still be multiple choice so I not too worried, but I was wondering.

A guy I went for the test with was failed for forgetting the keys in the ignition. Funny thing he didn't forget them during the pre-trip, but when he got out of the truck for instructions on the alley dock. The examiner clearly tells you to park and "secure" your truck.

G-Town's Comment
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Sure, I was thinking that the reason was to make sure no one started the truck while you were inspecting it -- kinda like when I was checking my propeller on my ultralight -- wanted to make sure that the mags were off and the key was not in the ignition! -- but it never says anything in the manual about why.

For all the other review questions so far in the manual, you can find almost the exact wording in the book. I don't think that question will even come up on the test, and if it does, it will still be multiple choice so I not too worried, but I was wondering.

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A guy I went for the test with was failed for forgetting the keys in the ignition. Funny thing he didn't forget them during the pre-trip, but when he got out of the truck for instructions on the alley dock. The examiner clearly tells you to park and "secure" your truck.

My rule of thumb that I follow every day is to put the keys in my pocket whenever I am outside of the truck, pre-trip or otherwise.

Stevo Reno's Comment
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Never trust anyone! lol Was getting off work 1 night at a job I had years ago. I forgot something in my locker, so I pulled up to shop door, ran to my locker , leaving my car running.

Co workers thought it'd be funny to lock my doors and close drivers door. I slim jimmed back in, and from then on, I kept my spare keys in my wallet! They got me once, won't happen a 2nd time! lol

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