Confusion On Crst Contract

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Chelsea R.'s Comment
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Ok. So I worked for CRST before. Had to sign a contract. My grandmother got severely ill and I needed to be home, so I left after they told me my job was more important..anyways that was back in 2013. I came back to finish the contract because I was tired of not being able to get another driving job because of crst...well on this new contract they screwed up and according to a few people that I have talked to if I were to fight it, my contract would legally be considered null and void. On the contract they put that my rehire date was october 20,2015 and that my contract goes for a period of 5 months up to march 20th 2015. Its way past march 2015. Any advice? Going back was my last option, but I have 2 kids and a fiance at home. So otr is very difficult. Should I talk to a lawyer?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Errol V.'s Comment
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well on this new contract they screwed up and according to a few people that I have talked to if I were to fight it, my contract would legally be considered null and void.

Big companies like CRST have lawyers, and rarely "screw up" contacts. Maybe something about your hire/work dates.

Which truck stop has lawyers hanging out in a driver lounge? What is the legal experience of the people you talked to?

On the contract they put that my rehire date was october 20,2015 and that my contract goes for a period of 5 months up to march 20th 2015. Its way past march 2015. Any advice?

So now it's seven months "overdue". What was supposed to happen on March 20? Were you free to go? Have you talked directly to CRST personnel? Like your phone contact, the contract was done, and nothing happens till you make it happen.

Check with CRST's office to see if your contact has been completed.

Old School's Comment
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I was tired of not being able to get another driving job because of crst

Chelea, I've always tried to "shoot straight" with people, so get your big girl pants cinched up because here is the hard facts:

It is not "because of crst" that you can not get a job. They did their part of the agreement. You are the one who had to back out of their end of the bargain. I applaud you for going back to finish things up, but man as soon as you thought you found a way to poke your finger in their eye you are ready to stick it to them again! Stop and think about what you are doing. You've got to quit focusing on how hard your situation is and just get down to business and take care of what you agreed to do. Everyone has problems getting this career started, you are not singularly disposed to having the most difficult issues causing you problems in getting your career off to a good start. I had a few so I know how difficult it can be. Everybody has issues, because this is a job that requires a good deal of sacrifice. If the sacrifice were not worth the rewards I would have gotten out a long time ago. Do the right thing and finish up your contract. You will be proud of yourself for sticking it out and making it right. If you think you are going to be proud of yourself for finding a tiny little typo in an addendum to the original contract. Remember, there wouldn't even be this addendum if you had been able to honor your first agreement.

As a former business man who was involved in lots of contracts for a good thirty years, I can promise you that one little clerical mistake means nothing. You already agreed to work for them for a certain period of time, and you never did what you said you would. Forget those folks who are giving you such silly advice, I don't think they would recognize a contract if they saw one from what you've said. Any judge is going to ask you if you ever did what you originally agreed to do with CRST, and you are going to have to say no, and then that judge is going to say, "well, I think it's time you finished what you started - case closed."

We've actually had quite a few drivers in here with this same issue - CRST doesn't play games, and I guess they have been burned enough times now that they have decided that they are going to hold people to their word. Get this behind you and then you can move on, but please, don't lay the blame on the folks who did everything they could to help you get your CDL , and gave you a new career path that has some really great opportunities ahead.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Phil C.'s Comment
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Ok. So I worked for crst before. Had to sign a contract. My grandmother got severely ill and I needed to be home, so I left after they told me my job was more important..anyways that was back in 2013. I came back to finish the contract because I was tired of not being able to get another driving job because of crst...well on this new contract they screwed up and according to a few people that I have talked to if I were to fight it, my contract would legally be considered null and void. On the contract they put that my rehire date was october 20,2015 and that my contract goes for a period of 5 months up to march 20th 2015. Its way past march 2015. Any advice? Going back was my last option, but I have 2 kids and a fiance at home. So otr is very difficult. Should I talk to a lawyer?

It doesn't matter what they put, until you have worked the 5 months required you haven't fulfilled the contract. My guess is that you contacted them in October so that's when they began the new contract dates. But its the same contract, you owe 5 months. Until you perform your end of the contract it will just keep getting extended just like your original 2013 contract has surely expired, but it never goes away until you hold up your end of the bargain. Alternatively you may be able to buy your way out of the contract.

Phil

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Bud A.'s Comment
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Ok. So I worked for crst before. Had to sign a contract. My grandmother got severely ill and I needed to be home, so I left after they told me my job was more important..anyways that was back in 2013. I came back to finish the contract because I was tired of not being able to get another driving job because of crst...well on this new contract they screwed up and according to a few people that I have talked to if I were to fight it, my contract would legally be considered null and void. On the contract they put that my rehire date was october 20,2015 and that my contract goes for a period of 5 months up to march 20th 2015. Its way past march 2015. Any advice? Going back was my last option, but I have 2 kids and a fiance at home. So otr is very difficult. Should I talk to a lawyer?

A clerical error like that will not void he contract. Any judge worth his salt would simply ask whether you understood it to mean March 20, 2016, when you signed it. Obviously if you signed it in October of 2015, the only credible answer is yes.

Now you have a meeting of the minds as to the terms of the contract, and assuming the other elements of a valid contract are present (I'm sure they are since it was written by CRST's lawyers, who are evidently very competent), you are indeed obligated to fulfil its terms or suffer the penalties that come with CRST's contractual remedies.

Frankly, you should be thankful they are willing to let you come back and drive your way out of the contract rather than simply seeking the money that is owed.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Stevo Reno's Comment
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You've already put in over half the time, 5 months is nothing! Knock it out, and then think of moving on

L.X Trucker's Comment
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I want to help people's understanding about CRST true they will sue only if you are under contract with them! If you went through a sponsored school through them at that time you are under contract with that private school $3200 and 158 a month payment you will have to pay school back! As for CRST if you went to they 4 day orientation it's a pre hire to see would you get the job but do note if you didn't sign that contract CRST orientation package you are not under contract it's between you and the school but do realize that school have you under their contract and they will not verify that you went to school there are sending transcript because remember you owed the school so that's why CRST say they will pick up the tap because you sign contract with them for 10 months and you have a employment ID number that's all the school want so they can get paid $3200 for school the loan government loan and Crst pay them$7000 reimburse add it up ! I know because I tried to set payment plan with school and I call CRST they do not have me in they system because I never sign CRST orientation package....

Pre Hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

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