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Aces-N-eights (Dale)'s Comment
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First let me start with a little background info, I'm 30 years old and staying in CT with my parents for the summer....HOWEVER my DL address says Class C CDL out of las vegas, NV. I have been a limo driver out there as well as a bodyguard and firearms instructor. Several things have happened in my life recently that have left me single and broke. **** SIDE BAR....gas in NV was 2.85 at one point this year.... I paid 4.05 this morning in CT...WTF**** My younger (27) brother recently paid 10,000 dollars to go to NETTS, he was pre-hired by rohel before he had even tested.... I however have more smarts than he does and looked into "free" schooling. So this is where the questions start.

1) I have a class C CDL from NV, will this help me in anyway to get into a school?

2) I noticed some companies won't hire from certain states If I have duel residency (I.E NV,CT and FL) but my CDL says NV what do companies look at...Actual location? DL location?

3) I have only applied to one school (CREngland) and will apply to Prime tomorrow, If you have to apply to a school tomorrow which one would it be and why.

Lets start with those and see what else may come up.

Thank you for the advice and such a useful site. A&8's

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Starcar's Comment
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OK...you kinda jumped the gun, so lets back off the pedal for a bit and put things in prospective. Your cdl be it class a,b,or c must be in your state of residence, period. Your class c will not help you in any way for cdl school. You will be the same as all the other newbies there. BUT TT can get you ahead of the crowd, both in school, and in getting prehire letters...AND in picking a school to go to. So lets start there.. Company-Sponsored Training is a list of schools. Some of them offer housing and meals, so you won't need to stay in CT if you don't want to. But remember, maybe theres a better school than whats offered in CT....check em all out. remember...whatever company school you choose, be prepared to spend a year there...you'll need to ,so that you will be a sought after commodity after you have a years experience....

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Prehire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

Company-sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

guyjax(Guy Hodges)'s Comment
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Biggest thing I see so far is the CDL address. It must have the address of the state you live in. That is a federal law. Now if your going to stay in Vagas then its no be deal but if you are going to move out of Nevada then you must change you address to your new home state. There is no such thing as duel residence. It one state or the other but no both.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Aces-N-eights (Dale)'s Comment
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Biggest thing I see so far is the CDL address. It must have the address of the state you live in. That is a federal law. Now if your going to stay in Vagas then its no be deal but if you are going to move out of Nevada then you must change you address to your new home state. There is no such thing as duel residence. It one state or the other but no both.

Ok, this is where things get tough for me. I have an apartment in Las Vegas, However I'm helping out family in CT so my Legal address is Las Vegas. This doesn't mean I can't have other places I stay for a few months here or there correct?

I understand that with the company sponsored training I will be leaving for a length of time, that doesn't bother be as I have always been a "drifter" for lack of a better word.

The question I have about would my class C help in anyways was based on the fact that a lot of schools seem to want you to go in with you permit. I passed the general knowledge test, air brakes, haz-mat, with flying colors. So is that all useless?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I'm not sure if your class C is going to help you or not. You'll have to speak with the Motor Vehicle Department to find out what tests they'll require you to take to upgrade to a class A CDL.

You can indeed stay in different places or take time off in different places. That's not a problem. But like Guyjax said, you'll have to choose which state you call home and use that one for your license. And the state you choose as your home state will also be the one that companies use to determine if you're in their hiring zone or not.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Aces-N-eights (Dale)'s Comment
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I'm not sure if your class C is going to help you or not. You'll have to speak with the Motor Vehicle Department to find out what tests they'll require you to take to upgrade to a class A CDL.

You can indeed stay in different places or take time off in different places. That's not a problem. But like Guyjax said, you'll have to choose which state you call home and use that one for your license. And the state you choose as your home state will also be the one that companies use to determine if you're in their hiring zone or not.

I just got a call from Rohel saying I can't go to their school based on the fact I live in the west.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

HeavyHauler's Comment
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I'm not sure if your class C is going to help you or not. You'll have to speak with the Motor Vehicle Department to find out what tests they'll require you to take to upgrade to a class A CDL.

You can indeed stay in different places or take time off in different places. That's not a problem. But like Guyjax said, you'll have to choose which state you call home and use that one for your license. And the state you choose as your home state will also be the one that companies use to determine if you're in their hiring zone or not.

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I just got a call from Rohel saying I can't go to their school based on the fact I live in the west.

So then change your residency to CT and you'll be eligible for hire. smile.gif

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Aces-N-eights (Dale)'s Comment
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So then change your residency to CT and you'll be eligible for hire. smile.gif

Well that is the other lovely issue...I can't... to get a CT CDL they said I had to go to a CT school. Its all good, CREngland and Prime have both emailed me. Its a start.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
HeavyHauler's Comment
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I talked to C.R. England last night. They're pushing hard for me to start next monday the 12th in Richland Indianan. I've also contacted Celedon, CRST, Knight, Roehl, and about a half dozen others.

Aces-N-eights (Dale)'s Comment
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I talked to C.R. England last night. They're pushing hard for me to start next monday the 12th in Richland Indianan. I've also contacted Celedon, CRST, Knight, Roehl, and about a half dozen others.

Chris, I got a text from them for me to call them but they aren't my first choice...they are running a special where if you start on the 12th you get free tuition.

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