Electronic Logs: A Minor Change.
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Interesting, I thought it was a company thing. I pulled away from a dock, closed my doors, slid my tandems , checked out at the guard shack......was listed as "off duty", started down the road as was dinged 12 minutes of drive time, only noticed it because I had exactly 60 minutes left in my day, and it jumped to 48 minutes . I saw an update to the Qualcomm a couple days earlier, so now it makes sense
Tandems:
Tandem Axles
A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".
Tandem:
Tandem Axles
A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".
Qualcomm:
Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.
You have to stay with either Off Duty or On/Not Driving for at least 5 minutes to make your status "stick". With 5 minutes of a status the QC won't go back and erase the site-time status.
* 4 minutes of off duty, then you drive, the OFF time disappears and becomes driving.
* 5 minutes of off duty will stay on your record when you start driving.
SAP:
Substance Abuse Professional
The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.
You have to stay with either Off Duty or On/Not Driving for at least 5 minutes to make your status "stick". With 5 minutes of a status the QC won't go back and erase the site-time status.
* 4 minutes of off duty, then you drive, the OFF time disappears and becomes driving.
* 5 minutes of off duty will stay on your record when you start driving.
Ah, but there's a bug in the new software. I was at 34 minutes off duty today, started the truck, started rolling right away, drove 5 minutes, and was charged with 9 minutes of drive time. It showed my off duty time as exactly 30 minutes. Why on earth should I be penalized 4 minutes when I actually drove 5 and not 9? Not cool, DOT.
SAP:
Substance Abuse Professional
The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Bud found a bug! (Maybe):
Ah, but there's a bug in the new software. I was at 34 minutes off duty today, started the truck, started rolling right away, drove 5 minutes, and was charged with 9 minutes of drive time. It showed my off duty time as exactly 30 minutes.
I went over on my 30, but didn't check. I'll do that tomorrow. Also, I think 8 hours on break doesn't seem to resurrect the available time for a split sleeper routine.
Bud found a bug! (Maybe):
Ah, but there's a bug in the new software. I was at 34 minutes off duty today, started the truck, started rolling right away, drove 5 minutes, and was charged with 9 minutes of drive time. It showed my off duty time as exactly 30 minutes.
I went over on my 30, but didn't check. I'll do that tomorrow. Also, I think 8 hours on break doesn't seem to resurrect the available time for a split sleeper routine.
Split sleeper berth only works if you do the first part (8 hours) as sleeper, otherwise it does not reset and correctly credit you with split sleeper berth.
When trying to do split sleeper, I always try to be sure I have at least 6 hours left on my drive line clock. For me, I have found having less than 6+ hours does not work out too well most times. But that's just me.
Ernie
Sleeper Berth:
The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.
I just called my DBL at Schneider and on my what seemed forever hold time, the friendly voice explained that this knew rule will be taking effect next week on the Qualcomm or something. Maybe I miss heard.
I basically got from it that the computer will pick up driving immediately now so make sure you get your full 30 minute break before you roll.
Qualcomm:
Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.
This is why I run paper logs don't have to worry about this ever.
I was also. I'm on paper logs, so I don't worry. The only thing that would trip me up is fueling.
Dave
This is why I run paper logs don't have to worry about this ever.
I heard DOT is requiring all companies / drivers to make the switch to e logs by a date in the near future...
http://www.frg-law.com/truck-accident-blog/road-safety/new-electronic-driver-log-regulations/
basically the rule went into effect in sept and trucking companies using paper logs have 2 years from then to convert to e logs.
so yeah enjoy those paper logs while you can cause they are going away very soon.. i mean if you still want to fill it out for nostalgic reasons you can but it would be a waste of time haha...
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
They haven't really finalized it yet. The thing is, you'll need them, if your Qualcomm (or other e-log device) goes on the blink. My company is a very SMALL company.
Hey, I'm "ALWAYS" legal with my paper log.
I just have to figure a way to legally drive from Newport Beach, Virginia to San Diego, California in two days.
Dave
Qualcomm:
Omnitracs (a.k.a. Qualcomm) is a satellite-based messaging system with built-in GPS capabilities built by Qualcomm. It has a small computer screen and keyboard and is tied into the truck’s computer. It allows trucking companies to track where the driver is at, monitor the truck, and send and receive messages with the driver – similar to email.New Reply:
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It would have to still follow the .25 hr rules for breaks and status changes.... so if you're stopping at 2:07 its actually going to go back to 2:00??? but 2:08 would go forward to 2:15 ??? Ive been using the bigroad app ( both android and IOS .... claims full legal for both Canada and US ( has ability to print so would be legal for scale houses as well ) ( DOT in some states allow the check to happen right on the device) same rules apply in that the Elog has to change the "time" rounding to the nearest 1/4 hour ?? Just my thought I would imagine that each company will have different rules and work arounds for each situation.
Elog:
Electronic Onboard Recorder
Electronic Logbook
A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.