Brett, and OS,
It is possible that Dan could very well be a good driver, that unfortunately fell through the cracks, in a division that is already over staffed with drivers for the actual workload. He was probably only asking for a raise, because he was at his wits end, and grasping for solutions to his dilemma. Like I stated earlier, No company is infallible, and it is not alwaysjust the drivers fault. It can be a combination of all the above, and sometimes, god forbid, the company messed up.
Danielsahn most of the time I agree with you...but respectfully not in this case. A really good driver would not allow this to go on for 7 months, no freakin' way. For the most part we are all type A's (A minus in my case), I'd be on the phone with the "Great Pumpkin" himself if I were in Daniel's shoes, WTFing anyone who would listen. This business is not for the faint of heart or passive. Just doesn't work.
Like most everyone on this forum, I could not survive on 350 gross every week. For Pete' sake I made that when I was on my mentors truck for 6 weeks during road training. Something doesn't add up. The fact that he quit without making a serious effort to have Schneider transfer him, leads me to doubt we know the whole story. Schneider knows what is going on in his division, if it was true they would have moved him, no questions asked. He kinda burned a bridge
which is the second thing that raises a red flag. Third he quit without having another driving job...a significant no-no in any vocation or career. Far easier to find your next job while you are gainfully employed.
Only Daniel knows the whole story and he needs to very quickly come to terms with reality and make a decision because protracted delay will make it more difficult for him to re-enter the business without taking a financial hit and dealing with re-training.
Ya.well I saw guys asking to go back to training to get paid and get a free lunch again...guys that had been there over a year
I haven't even started school, but I've checked job oppertunity from several companies. Daniels was one I checked into.they had three offers. One was a route for family dollar, one was team,, and the otr required experience. I'm not sure about the length on experience. Sorry about my errors, but can't seem to edit.
OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.
Funny how the number s fall during this thread...I'm just bitter. Too much time parked in a truck I guess...and trying to navigate a system set up for a regional operation in an otr position is my guess. Also...that 35 grand was including the 5 grand sign on bonus.
I had a response to this, but G-Town's response pretty much nailed it. Even in Schneider's adds, they say you can make up to $xx,xxx per year, and then qualify it with a little * saying it is dependant on experience, and other factors.
I still maintain my position, but man, something isn't adding up.
Stay safe
Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.
OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.
Harold wrote:
I haven't even started school, but I've checked job oppertunity from several companies. Daniels was one I checked into.they had three offers. One was a route for family dollar, one was team,, and the otr required experience. I'm not sure about the length on experience. Sorry about my errors, but can't seem to edit.
Harold, forget about what Daniel wrote. Schneider is a very good company. You will need you Class A CDL in order for Schneider to hire you as an entry-level driver. They will provide you with school referral and if get your CDL they have a tuition reimbursement program.
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OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.
Funny how at least 40 went to 32 to 35...oh and how about calculating that 5 grand bonus with your math equations to figure out the miles genius
My problem is the guy starts out bashing the company and its much later he admits the company offered him other positions/divisions. Then we find out there are issues at home.
Just don't lead with it's all the company's fault. Lots of people come here for accurate info and advice and this was counterproductive.
Daniel hasn't had enough:
Funny how at least 40 went to 32 to 35...oh and how about calculating that 5 grand bonus with your math equations to figure out the miles genius
Below is your initial post "Genius", where does it mention a 5k sign-on bonus?
I didn't mind the work so much, but the pay was horrible. One week out of 4 I'd make a decent check but 7 days out and getting 350 dollars for it was too much.Worked too hard for free too many times..spent most Mondays haggelling for lay over pay days..would come home to the family to say we have to tighten up...no money...I honestly can say putting in all those hours at minimum wage would had been a better idea. I ate cold food all the time so no one can say I blew it on food. They say most good companies want a full year otr...here I am with 7 months licking my wounds trying to find a local job with a serious trust issue towards any otr company....any advice anyone?
The 5k bonus is paid as a sign-on bonus to experienced tank drivers. You were fresh out of school, why would they pay you any bonus, especially 5k? If they still by some chance offered you a bonus, you were not there long enough to collect it.
Look, please do yourself a favor, your pants are down around your knees right now...continuing to defend yourself and call people names is futile and only serves to further prove the point that it was likely you that failed, not Schneider.
You asked for advice? Stop wasting your time posting baloney on this forum. That's my advice. A problem without a solution is still a problem...and you still have a problem. We have all offered suggestions and not one have you taken at face value. Not one. The fact that you continue to defend yourself is again a self-indictment of what really happened.
Stop. Like I said time to come clean or please go away.
OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.
Funny how at least 40 went to 32 to 35...oh and how about calculating that 5 grand bonus with your math equations to figure out the miles genius
the reason i asked for confirmation with 40k is because I drive flatbed, so my starting number may not match yours. My first year was over 50k
By reading all the feedback here it is helping me decide what to do...thanks for all the input by some and to others if you peace this whole thread from the beginning to end ya just might get what went down. 50 grand in a year would had been great. Most 2nd year Bulk drivers barely made that....I would nt be so negative if the money had been right.
By reading all the feedback here it is helping me decide what to do...thanks for all the input by some and to others if you peace this whole thread from the beginning to end ya just might get what went down. 50 grand in a year would had been great. Most 2nd year Bulk drivers barely made that....I would nt be so negative if the money had been right.
Reading this kind of scared me out of making this jump. I started another thread asking a few questions. I try to remain positive, but geeze...I was making 40k a year 16 years ago as an apprentice. This is starting to look absurd to me. I think I just might turn in my 3 week old CDL.
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I though I was done with this, guess not. Now this just got interesting...Brett and OS were dead-nuts on. You ready Bro? Put your seatbelt on cause this is going to be over really quick.
The entire industry has the same turnover for entry level drivers because people unknowingly get into this with a false sense of reality and lofty expectations. It's a lifestyle and job no one can understand until they experience it. The first year is very, very hard and carries a high risk of multiple accidents, missed-deliveries, and tickets that unfortunately get newbies fired at an alarming high rate. It's reality and it's everywhere not just at Schneider. You just realizing this? Really, so that's a supporting reason to quit?
Unfortunately your story just fell apart...sank your own ship. Lets do the math cause it don't lie! 32k is $615 per week, right? Where is the "$350 most weeks" in your initial post? There was no misunderstanding, you lied. If you are paid 36 cents per mile, then you were averaging 1700 miles per week. If your CPM was lower, than your mileage was even higher. I thought your mileage was 1000? How is that possible? Was that too a misunderstanding? I thought that was the primary reason for quitting, lack of mileage.
32-35k is a reasonable average for a first year driver. We told you that after your initial post and reinforced it. The story is changing and your credibility is out the window. That's a reason to quit?
If the customer was trashing your employer why TF didn't you get on the phone with Schneider to let them know what you were hearing? Call up the chain and get yourself heard, cause Brother, that unfortunately is a reflection on you! When you are driving their pumpkin wagons, you are their representative, their brand. When ever I hear anything negative at my customer's (notice the ownership), I get on the horn with my DM and sometimes the Terminal Manager and let them know what's going on. So that's a reason to quit?
You are right, I can't understand what you are writing. I doubt at this point anyone can. Thanks for wasting my (our) time, I was trying to help you.
For the record why did you really quit? Or did they let you go? Come clean and maybe we will be able to help you. Otherwise Happy New Year and good luck.
Unbelievable...
Terminal:
A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.
Dm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.CPM:
Cents Per Mile
Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.
OWI:
Operating While Intoxicated