Virginia-related Questions

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Blue Hotel's Comment
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I know most of you have better things to do around this time of year than answer questions from the likes of me, but I need to ask eventually. My instructors (there are several) sometimes give contradicting answers, and other times they over-simplify things. It's not necessarily bad, I just have my own way of understanding things.

So sometime this week I'm heading to DMV to get my Hazmat endorsement lined up so I'll have it on my license when I graduate CDL school. The instructors said I should, and the lady I spoke with on the phone for DMV also said I can do this. I also want to get my tankers endorsement, but the lady said I'd need to take a road test in a tank vehicle. Is this true, or is the written test enough to secure the endorsement post-graduation in Virginia?

I know it seems bad to be unsure of a DMV employee's knowledge, but something I've learned is that people often don't know much beyond their own specialized role.

My second question is regarding cement trucks/mixers. Although I'm pursuing a Class A, my dad says he liked working for a cement company and that I should consider that an option too. Anyway, do you need the tankers endorsement to drive a cement truck in Virginia? I understand that in some states you do.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Deezyl Geezer's Comment
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If you have to road test with a tank for the endorsement then it's news to me. I have HM 'X' endorsement which includes tank. There are individual HM and tank(N). I always have had the tank on my cdl and have never had or heard of a road test. I can't think of one driving school that even trains on tanks but I'm sure some do.

If you're talking about a mixer truck its a class B. If your talking dry bulk trailer then its class A with the tank(N).

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Blue Hotel's Comment
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If you're talking about a mixer truck its a class B. If your talking dry bulk trailer then its class A with the tank(N).

Thanks for the answer.

I'm talking about the Class B mixer truck like you'd see at the construction site.

Phox's Comment
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In Texas it's only a written test for all endorsements. the driving test is just for getting the cdl license. you need to test in the vehicle type that corresponds to the class type you want (a,b, c and if your state has it d). don't know about virgina though. Perhaps look at the DMV website for VA and see what it says.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Blue Hotel's Comment
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In Texas it's only a written test for all endorsements. the driving test is just for getting the cdl license. you need to test in the vehicle type that corresponds to the class type you want (a,b, c and if your state has it d). don't know about virgina though. Perhaps look at the DMV website for VA and see what it says.

I went down to the DMV today to take my Hazmat and Tankers test so the endorsements will be there when I get my license. The lady only gave a more confusing answer and said it depends on the school. I've looked at the DMV website and it doesn't mention a road test, but it's still unclear. I guess I won't know until I get my CDL.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Deezyl Geezer's Comment
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I've had the tank endorsement since '89(read old as dirt!). I never had to do a road test with a tanker. The road test requires you to operate a vehicle in the license class you are applying for. Class A is a combination vehicle with a CGVW of 26001 pounds or more in combination with a trailer with a GVW of 10000 or more. So a dump truck pulling a trailer with a 10000lb bulldozer would require the class A, while the truck alone only requires the class B. I wouldn't sweat it. Good luck on your testing.

Combination Vehicle:

A vehicle with two separate parts - the power unit (tractor) and the trailer. Tractor-trailers are considered combination vehicles.

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