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Errol V.'s Comment
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Scott speaks up:

Why do people say "safe haven" when it comes to HOS , correct me if I'm wrong but there is not such term in HOS. The term "safe haven" only deals with HAZMAT. If I'm wrong please identify the FMCSA Reg.

~scott

You are correct. The only "Safe Haven" in the rules has to do with hazmat. Not even that 2 hour extension for unplanned snow/weather situations is considered "Safe Haven". If you search here for Safe Haven, you should find several discussions.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Phox's Comment
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Like Errorl said there is no safe haven exception... it's a made up term that will one day get you in trouble... except for the hazmat stuff but that's not what people are talking about most of the time.

the 2 hour extension is for unplanned circumstances, weather, traffic, etc. but you can't use it whenever, if you try that every day or really more than once a week you're asking for problems. If I was an inspector I would be asking why you're not doing proper trip planning... Even once a week I think is a bit much but that at least could happen, especially with the crazy weather lately. You can't predict mother nature anymore.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

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