Managing HOS Tomorrow Seems Like An Impossibility...

HOS rules exist. I get it. They're in place for safety - the most important reason of all. They are a PITA because of this dilemma I have...

Tomorrow I will wake up with 9:45 left on my 70 and am only 1.5 hours away from my 8 AM delivery. No problem there. Live unload. Ugh. I have my next load at 18:00. Again - live load. It's about 1.5 hours from my delivery.

So, assuming all goes well, I'll leave here at 6 AM, get to my delivery at 8 and if they take 2 hours, I'll be done at 10 - with 4.5 hours off the 70, leaving me 5:15. How on Earth can I make this work? Seems to me that I can't.

Once I get the load I can sit for the night and take off in the morning, but how do I even get there? I don't want to call my DM yet unless there's something that I am missing.

Advice please! You guys have been awesome .

Hi Eric,

I'm new to all his myself but I'll take a stab at it. The way I see it is you're going to be anywhere from 3 - 3.5 hrs early but you won't be able to go anywhere after you get loaded. I guess I'd call and ask the company about loading you early or the possibility of parking on their property until you can reset your time. Hopefully somebody else will chime in, heck I'm actually curious about what you should do in this particular predicament myself. LOL!

JJ

I How far into your 8 day cycle are you. Remember you have a day falling off when 24 hrs is up. It sounds like you could use the split sleeper provision. It is a little confusing. Maybe Brett will chime in. He has a real good handle on it, and explains it real well in the log book section of this site.

As of right now, I have 3:45 left on my 70 and will gain 6:30 tomorrow and 8:34 Wednesday. I am a full 8 days in.

As far as I know there is no way to load early. I'll check but wanted to see if there was another option that I was overlooking.

I was thinking split-sleeper too but am really confused on that. As I understand it, I can take 2 hours, then work a few hours, then take 8 and it will reset me to when I started the first 2???

I think you forgot something, Erick: sleeper berth . I'll post your wristwatch time as "0830", and your 70 hour clock time as "8:30".

0600/9:45 get up, start pre-trip.

0630/9:15 head out for the delivery place. 1.5 hour drive.

0800/7:45 arrive for delivery.

Now your calculations seen to say you stay On Duty for the unload. Unless you need to watch, or check things off, you really don't have anything to do! Go Sleeper Berth! A 2 hour break.

1000/7:30 unload is done. You used 15 minutes to check in and back to the dock.

7-1/2 on your recap for that day should be enough to go get your next load. Also, at midnight your truck turns into a pumpkin. Oh - wrong story. At midnight you automatically get the next available time on your recap. If you use a Qualcomm , that's the line on your HOS status tab that says "Hrs to be Gained".

Is it your 14 or your 70 hour clock you are worried about here?

Just switch from driving to sleeper berth soon as you get to the receiver. Then do the same thing when you get to the shipper.

No matter how long it takes to get loaded you will have 7 3/4 hours left on your 70 hour clock. 90 minutes to get to the shipper. Once you are loaded you will still have 6 1/4 hours left on your 70 hour clock.

I was concerned about both.

If I start pre-trip at 0600 and leave at 0630, I'll get to the receiver and checked in by 0815.

Go to SB as soon as I hit the dock and that stops my driving hours of course but doesn't the 14 hour daily clock keep rolling and with it, eating away at my 70? I was never really good at the logs so maybe I am over thinking it and making it more complicated than it needs to be.

That's why I LOVE this group - so friendly and understanding when it comes to new guys like me.

My company doesn't allow split sleeper. So, if it's just a matter of I'd be way early for the pick up, I'd call my DM to see if they can move up the appointment. I got no problem letting my team know I don't appreciate being forced to sit all day for nothing.

My folks would either get me another load, give me something really good after that one or give me a little $ to make up for sacrificing miles I could drive.

But your scenario is very rare for me.

Good luck.

The 14 hour daily limit is really its own thing. It's not connected to your 70 hours or anything else. The 14 hours is the maximum you could do on any particular day once you start On Duty. Once you go On Duty you have up to 14 hours to do stuff before you must stop. (You can stop work in less than 14 if you need/want to.)

So in this situation you still have plenty of time to get unloaded and off to your pick up. You start at 6am, you must stop by 8pm. If you had 9 hours of recap time, you could drive 2 hours, wait 10 hours to unload (sleeper berth style) then you could only be on duty/drive for 2 more hours because of the 14 hour daily limit.

OK, I think I have it figured out.

Leave at 0600 and when I get to the dock, sleeper berth until they're done. Should be by about 0815. Assume 2 hours for load, back on duty and my pickup is right by a Flying J. I'll park there and go back off until 6, then hope they can get me loaded quickly so I can return to that Flying J for the night. If not, I'll gladly pay for a night at a T/A 30 minutes away, if I have to. That'd be the next closest stop.

There is a Walmart but it looks hard for trucks to get in and out of the parking lot.

Thanks!