HOS & Cabotage Questions - For US - Canadian - US Drivers (Experienced Drivers)

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Scott L. aka Lawdog's Comment
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In class today we were discussing HOS compliance related to US & Canadian HOS.

If you are a US driver and take a load up to Canada:

1. Do you operate under US FMCSR HOS or Canadian? 2. Are you allowed to accept and deliver loads within Canadian borders [cabotage] if a) your company has a terminal and/or b) your company does not have a terminal.

^scott

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Scott M's Comment
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HOS_COMPARE_US_CANADA_zpsffb3sqew.jpg

Rules to follow in Canada. First time I have posted a photo.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Scott L. aka Lawdog's Comment
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Thanks for the chart Jetguy but still would like to know answers to my questions if anyone knows.

^scott

Rick S.'s Comment
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From anecdotal evidence I've seen from truckers blogs that operate both sides, you can run a backhaul - but I don't think you're allowed to bee-bop around across the border doing loads in country. That is - haul a load in, you're allowed to grab a load back out.

Your company will either have a backhaul already arranged, or deadhead you out. Make sure your CRIMINAL HISTORY IS CLEAN - Canada can be stricter on misdemeanors, DUI's and other charges - and won't even let you into the country.

Canada also has some stricter on speed limiters (governed trucks) @ 65MPH (Ontario & Quebec) and super serious enforcement of speed and other regs.

Once you cross the border into Canada - you are required to comply with their HOS regs, which have a 16 hour day clock and a 13 hour drive clock (as illustrated by JetGuys chart).

Rick

Deadhead:

To drive with an empty trailer. After delivering your load you will deadhead to a shipper to pick up your next load.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

DUI:

Driving Under the Influence

Michael S.'s Comment
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A Canadian domiciled company cannot operate interstate or intrastate in the USA, nor can a USA domiciled corporation operate inter-provincially or intra-provincially in Canada. That a USA based corporation has a subsidiary in Canada does not allow a driver from the USA to pick up and drop off within Canada, or vice-versa.

A truck from the USA can take goods from the USA to Canada and make one or more deliveries of these goods in Canada. This same truck can pick up multiple loads within Canada, too, but they must be delivered to the USA.

When in the USA you operate under FMCSA HOS , when in Canada you operate under Canadian HOS. This means that you must have two weeks of logs when you are in Canada, and should have had a thirty-six hour reset if you took one just before the start of your two weeks or during it. Similarly, when you return to the USA your logs must conform to the US standard, so no trying to drive for 13 hours if you started your day in Canada then crossed the border.

Pity the poor driver that goes from the USA to Alaska, they have four sets of HOS to contend with, USA, Canada, Canada North, and USA Alaska.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Intrastate:

The act of purchasers and sellers transacting business while keeping all transactions in a single state, without crossing state lines to do so.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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