Is Off Duty Allowed At Customer?
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If SB is OK - no reason why OD wouldn't be.
People use off-duty, to save their 70 hour clock. As long as you log 15 minutes on arrival, and before departure, you should be OK.
This is assuming, you were sitting in the truck, not unloading yourself.
Technically, if you want to get technical, if you're in the driver seat, you were on duty not driving. Obviously there's no way for DOT to prove that
Rick
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
If SB is OK - no reason why OD wouldn't be.
People use off-duty, to save their 70 hour clock. As long as you log 15 minutes on arrival, and before departure, you should be OK.
This is assuming, you were sitting in the truck, not unloading yourself.
Technically, if you want to get technical, if you're in the driver seat, you were on duty not driving. Obviously there's no way for DOT to prove that
Rick
Ok that's what I figured. Truck drivers tell so many rumors... I've only been logging 5-10 minutes at arrival and again at departure. Same for fuel, scale tickets, really anything that takes up On Duty time. Pretrip 15-20 minutes and post trip 5-6 minutes. Should I be logging more, particularly a full 15 minutes at both arrival and departure from stops?
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
If SB is OK - no reason why OD wouldn't be.
People use off-duty, to save their 70 hour clock. As long as you log 15 minutes on arrival, and before departure, you should be OK.
This is assuming, you were sitting in the truck, not unloading yourself.
Technically, if you want to get technical, if you're in the driver seat, you were on duty not driving. Obviously there's no way for DOT to prove that
Rick
Ok that's what I figured. Truck drivers tell so many rumors... I've only been logging 5-10 minutes at arrival and again at departure. Same for fuel, scale tickets, really anything that takes up On Duty time. Pretrip 15-20 minutes and post trip 5-6 minutes. Should I be logging more, particularly a full 15 minutes at both arrival and departure from stops?
This is how the log compliance guy at Interstate put it: "There are no minimums, just log what you do. If your pre-trip takes 8 minutes, log 8 minutes. If it takes 17 minutes to fuel, log 17 minutes." So that's how I operate. If it takes me 23 minutes to get checked in and backed into a door at a customer, I log 23 minutes on duty, and then go to SB. If it takes me 7 minutes, I log 7 minutes. If I pull into a Flying J to top off the reefer and it takes 3 minutes, I log 3 minutes.
The "15 minute minimum" rumor comes from paper logs. Since paper logs are spaced out in 15 minute increments, 15 minutes is the smallest block of time you can log for any single activity. But with e-logs, you can log as little as 1 minute for whatever, so that 15 minute minimum isn't a thing.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Interstate:
Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).
Reefer:
A refrigerated trailer.
If SB is OK - no reason why OD wouldn't be.
People use off-duty, to save their 70 hour clock. As long as you log 15 minutes on arrival, and before departure, you should be OK.
This is assuming, you were sitting in the truck, not unloading yourself.
Technically, if you want to get technical, if you're in the driver seat, you were on duty not driving. Obviously there's no way for DOT to prove that
Rick
Ok that's what I figured. Truck drivers tell so many rumors... I've only been logging 5-10 minutes at arrival and again at departure. Same for fuel, scale tickets, really anything that takes up On Duty time. Pretrip 15-20 minutes and post trip 5-6 minutes. Should I be logging more, particularly a full 15 minutes at both arrival and departure from stops?
This is how the log compliance guy at Interstate put it: "There are no minimums, just log what you do. If your pre-trip takes 8 minutes, log 8 minutes. If it takes 17 minutes to fuel, log 17 minutes." So that's how I operate. If it takes me 23 minutes to get checked in and backed into a door at a customer, I log 23 minutes on duty, and then go to SB. If it takes me 7 minutes, I log 7 minutes. If I pull into a Flying J to top off the reefer and it takes 3 minutes, I log 3 minutes.
The "15 minute minimum" rumor comes from paper logs. Since paper logs are spaced out in 15 minute increments, 15 minutes is the smallest block of time you can log for any single activity. But with e-logs, you can log as little as 1 minute for whatever, so that 15 minute minimum isn't a thing.
Ok thank you, that makes sense. I forgot the paper logs were like that.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Interstate:
Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).
Reefer:
A refrigerated trailer.
Yep the book says you must show on duty time. The more you learn to minimize the time on duty WHILE BEING LEGAL the more of your 70 you can use on the drive line making money
Hahhahah if I logged how l9ng it takes me to back into a tight door... I'd be running recaps til the end of time hahhah
Hahhahah if I logged how l9ng it takes me to back into a tight door... I'd be running recaps til the end of time hahhah
Hahaha I hear ya
Me too.. I'm slow as molasses is what I tell everyone lol. I log 15 mins fpr a drop and hook simply because I'd be on recaps even more if I logged the actual time it takes me to get backed in.. but I am finally getting a little faster and more confident.
Drop And Hook:
Drop and hook means the driver will drop one trailer and hook to another one.
In order to speed up the pickup and delivery process a driver may be instructed to drop their empty trailer and hook to one that is already loaded, or drop their loaded trailer and hook to one that is already empty. That way the driver will not have to wait for a trailer to be loaded or unloaded.
Most time I get to a customer the night before and am off or sleeper until in ready to leave. I hit on for my paper work pick up then roll.
If I have to drive in I go in sleeper and some take 4 hours or more. In that case I wait and do the 8 in sleeper to extend my clock otherwise the 14 hr clock eats my drive time. Plus.. in the event I can make a 10 hr and roll asap that works as well.
I did have a situation recently where I got to the customer at 4am.... after driving 10 hrs. My 14 got killed there. They made me wait in a room until my 0700 Appt time.. so no sleep. When they unloaded again I waited in a room.... for another five hours. I had to drive off duty to truck stop. When my FM looked at the time available... he gave me a new load right away... but I had not slept in almost 20 hours. I've come to the conclusion that if I'm really really tired to make sure I can hit on duty as late in my clock as possible to unsure I truly get a break.
SAP:
Substance Abuse Professional
The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.
Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.New Reply:
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I heard a rumor that SB is OK to use at a pickup or drop, but you'll get a ticket for using off duty. Is that true?