Solo Or Team ?

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Errol V.'s Comment
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Rainy has the most realistic description of team driving life. I just describe it as living in a small box with another person. You are literally an arm's length apart most of the time.

Most company's wave Big Money talk for teams, and yes, it's really almost a wash one way or the other.

You do get the longer runs since a team can get to/ from California twice as fast as a solo driver.

As for trainer time, vs your own team time, your trainer's job is to, duh, train you. A team situation will get you trained the fastest way. You'll get a taste of team life, but your trainer will be the boss and you're busy learning.

In a real team truck you both are more or less equals and have to decide together nearly everything: stops, laundry, shopping, eating, etc. But you know there are times when an extra pair of hands or eyes will make life easier.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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Ok now I got the impression that no matter what company you go with you'll always start off with someone else now my question is is it with a trainer or is it really team driving and what's the difference how can you tell ?

At Prime when you go out with your permit you are basically driving all the miles and the Instructor teaches you turns.. shifting... the basics. After 3 weeks or so you come back to Prime and take the driving test for your CDL. Then you can stay with that instructor or get a different one for "TNT" which is "trainer n trainee" foe 30k miles. This is a team situation. Each trainer has a different style and different criteria. My trainer basically had us do all the meals laundry and fueling on MY 10 hr break. Also.... I did all the paperwork and QC.. even her shift .. and even when she was driving I was the one dealing with the customers...again... on MY 10 hr break. Keep in mind... she drove like a nut.... had the on guard beeping the whole time and would blow the air horns constantly. I hardly slept.... then would drive 550 miles. She once told me "use the porta potty now cause I'm not stopping for 400 miles" Really? I wish I would have pooped on her floor hahhaha

Even though I asked for more backing practice... she did all the backing cause I took too long. Time is money. I was usually too tired to argue about it... and I now wish I has insisted on doing all the backing. She woke me up for the customers anyway... but would have me go open the doors.. chock the tires...pull the tandem pin and couple n uncouple.

In the end... when I got my own truck..lif was awesome. Treat it like bootcamp... it is temporary..

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

The Professional's Comment
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It seems like a lot of the starter companies are making the new people drive team a little longer than what I have learned in the past. CR England has on its website that you go out with the trainer for about a month and then go team for a month and a half. good-luck-2.gif

G-Town's Comment
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It seems like a lot of the starter companies are making the new people drive team a little longer than what I have learned in the past. CR England has on its website that you go out with the trainer for about a month and then go team for a month and a half. good-luck-2.gif

Swift's road training (mentoring) is 200 total hours of trainee driving, first 50 is supervised, next 150 trainee and mentor dispatched as a team. If the 200 hours is completed successfully, the trainee is tested one last time. If passed, the trainee is elevated to first seat solo status. No teaming is required beyond training.

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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Btw.... with teaming you never have to worry about trip planning...not like as solo. While one is driving..the other is getting their hours back so someone always has drive time. As a team you rarely stop for longer than the 30 min breaks (if you have a good dispatcher you always have a preplan and don't sit). That means not worrying about filled truck stops and where to park.

Solo you really have to manage your time and learn how to manipulate your clock. You need to decide where to shut down and think about traffic and running out of hours. Much more planning solo.... and although my instructor mentioned it when. I had my permit.... my Tnt trainer didn't really bring it up much while teaming.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

Eckoh's Comment
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There is only one person i trust enough to team with. Keep that in mind that you life is in someone elses hands when you are in the back of the truck. If he derps out you life is on the line with his. Solo you own all your actions.

From what i have seen with most teams one driver ends up being the boss the other the you know what. That is why most teams do not last very long. The ones that do are generally couples. Also remember regardless of who does the most driving you split everything so if you average 550 miles a day and the other guy does 400 a day hes getting payed the same for less work.

Philly Boy's Comment
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Wow thank you that was a lot . You guys left me a lot to take into consideration. I definitely didn't think about how my life would be in someone else's hands if I was team driving. Guys you have been helpful. THANK YOU

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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Hahhah. There are a lot of married couples driving team at prime. I know a lot of husbands that trained their wives after they started here.... which says a great deal about the company. ANY man who is willing to bring his wife to a company must be willing to be nagged to the end of time for making the wrong recommendation lol. I personally thought that was one of the most impressive aspects of prime to be honest. Men wouldn't bring their wives to a sucks company.

Most of the trainer I know basically get solo runs the first week of tnt to watch the trainee and decided if they are safe to drive while the trainer is sleeping. I can tell u that I dint always feel safe while the trainer was driving... but I'm a control freak lol

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

Scott M's Comment
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Hahhah. There are a lot of married couples driving team at prime. I know a lot of husbands that trained their wives after they started here

Rainy- I always look forward to your comments. Another good trait about Prime. You're one of the reasons That Prime is at the top of my list to work for. Robert Low wants to grow the company and he's doing many things right.

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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That's sweet jetguy. But I'm just one driver and my experience might be totally different from someo n e elses. I have found thst when problems arise they are handled. If not then find someone higher up the chain and it will be handled. But remember I came from the post office and it was hell. So anything would have been better hahahha

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