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DSTURBD's Comment
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I know that TT doesn't like to hear the negative side of things (hello real world TT)

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Let me remind you which of us has lived the real world of trucking for 25 years.

I wish you the best in all of this but you need to reel it in a little bit. I deleted one paragraph of your tirade for obvious reasons. You know there are websites out there that will let you go on mindless rants, slanderous spiels, and conspiracy theories all you like but we're not one of em.

Okay, in the first place, I never said the real world of trucking, I said "real world", as in there is always a negative side that must be considered in any situation. I appreciate that I got a little over amped with my disappointment after so very much hard work and dedication, but the objections I was dealing with were just so very nit-picky and unfounded and the fact that there was nothing reasonable I could do to deal with it was just so very overwhelming that I lost control for a bit there. I have now gotten the situation taken care of at the cost of another $1000.00-plus of my own money, which should never have had to happen in my (and my doctor's) opinion. I planned everything, including the timetable, out very carefully and even figured in a fudge factor for variations (such as getting a preliminary DOT physical at my own expense) that might arise and it still cost me an amount of money that I worry will come back to bite me hard later. I apologize for my over-reaction, but I think your reaction somewhat fell into that category as well, so we both probably have a little to think about.

Supposedly, the Stevens doctor has reviewed my doctor's and the V.A.'s Neuro department's findings and have cleared me (according to the recruiter), but the fact remains that I paid for proof of what had already been previously established and there was no recourse that I had other than to pay extra money that I could not reasonably afford or could have expected given my preparations beforehand. Talk about real world negative side, huh?!?!? Being absolutely subject to life altering situations that a person has absolutely no power to affect or mitigate tends to generate over reactions and for falling victim to that, I do apologize. But then, I tend to try to understand the other person's side in such situations and determine whether there is anything I can do to make the situation a little more reasonable or easier to deal with by that person. But that's just me, I suppose.

I rarely ask anyone to do anything that I would not be willing to do.

DSTURBD

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Big Scott's Comment
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So, are you good to go with Steven's now?

DSTURBD's Comment
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So, are you good to go with Steven's now?

Hey Scott, Well, we'll see. I'm halfway back to Dallas, after the recruiter called me this afternoon and said that the doctor reviewed all of the findings and test results and cleared me. I was still sitting at the V.A. per his instructions to wait for his call. I don't think he wanted to reimburse me gas money if the answer was going to be no. LOL I do have to admit that it is cool that they will reimburse me for gas money, but what about all of the motel rooms for almost two weeks and the money for all of these medical procedures that will show up on MY health care bill from the V.A. that I will be making payments for until who knows when?!?!?!? Now bear in mind that I had already passed two different DOT physicals by two different registered DOT examiners!!! I do still want to work for Stevens as I think that they will be a good company to work for if I can just get through all of the preliminary BS and get rolling. It's just very frustrating as I have now sat through orientation two times and taken two physicals there, and will have to sit through it again. The second time, I told them that I was on med hold for the hand tremor and they said that I had to take the physical again anyway, even if I wasn't going to pass it. WTF?!?!? Oh well, you do what you're told to do. I just wonder if they will tell me I still have to take it again and stand in line for over three hours again, after the doctor has already said that I am cleared?!?!? I don't know. I just know that I have to do what they tell me to do. Whether it makes any sense at all or not!! Have to say that it reminds me a lot of the military, way too many chiefs and not enough indians. At this point, he wants to schedule me for the next class starting this coming Sunday and is willing to put me in a company motel if I get there Thursday or Friday. I have no place else to be, so I will be there sometime tomorrow. We'll see what happens.

Would very much love to get back to being happy and thrilled like I was the whole way along prior to this! smile.gif

DSTURBD

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Big Scott's Comment
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Hurry up and wait. I hope you don't have to do another physical. Dive safe. Glad all is working out. I was wondering what was up with you.

DSTURBD's Comment
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Hurry up and wait. I hope you don't have to do another physical. Dive safe. Glad all is working out. I was wondering what was up with you.

Well, I have to admit, I was more than a little P.O'd by Brett's response and misinterpretation of a lot of what I said and had to give myself a while to cool down. Although I do admit that I was harsher than I should have been in my earlier posts.

DSTURBD

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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the objections I was dealing with were just so very nit-picky and unfounded and the fact that there was nothing reasonable I could do to deal with it was just so very overwhelming that I lost control for a bit there

Really? Nitpicky and unfounded? Your hands shake. The same hands that are about to control and 80,000 pound rig surrounded by SUV's full of moms and children are shaking uncontrollably and you don't think it's reasonable for a doctor who has never seen you before to request a closer look before he makes his decision? Well you're wrong, simple as that. It was more than reasonable. In fact it was his job and his personal responsibility to make certain that you're safe to drive a truck, not assume so because you'll throw a childish fit if he doesn't.

See, you have this super inflated ego that thinks that the citizens show bow and the seas should part when the Great One wants to do something. Fortunately there are more reasonable people running things that don't see you as The Great One and it was most certainly reasonable for the doctor to request a closer look. Myself and the rest of this world will be sharing the highways with you and I'm glad that he had a closer look. It would have been irresponsible of him to assume you're perfectly fine without verifying so.

Supposedly, the Stevens doctor has reviewed my doctor's and the V.A.'s Neuro department's findings and have cleared me

Well geez, wasn't that just Earth-shattering and devastating for you? You had to wait a whole two days for him to review your records. Poor you. That's so awful, wasn't it? Way worse than just assuming you're fine and cutting you loose to drive an 80,000 pound death machine. Get serious.

I apologize for my over-reaction, but I think your reaction somewhat fell into that category as well, so we both probably have a little to think about.

No, my reaction most certainly did not fall under that category. You insulted us, you're attacking Stevens as if they have some kind of conspiracy against you, you purposely went off on a cursing tirade knowing we don't condone that type of garbage, you pouted incessantly about your conspiracy theories and your "poor me" agenda for days, and you went so far as to say the doctor would be number one on your list of people to murder.

I do have to admit that if I was ever really close to murdering a person in a very prolonged and monumentally painful way, the Stevens doctor would definitely be the very top of the list!!!!!!

But according to you our reactions were in the same category? I said you need to reel it in a little bit, you said you'd like to murder someone. Yeah, that sounds the same. I'm sure in your mind it does anyhow.

Seriously, get over yourself. A doctor requests a look at your medical records and you go on a three day tirade, start attacking everyone around you, and then start talking about murdering him? You're a diva is what you are.

To be honest I'm not glad at all knowing you're going to be making decisions that control an 80,000 pound rig on America's highways. I can't imagine how you'll react when all day, every day people are cutting you off and giving you the finger. I'm sure your reactions will be reasonable. It's not like your super inflated ego is going to send you into some insane frenzy making you want to murder them or anything. Yeah, you seem like just the type who can keep his cool under pressure and make reasonable, clear minded decisions.

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Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I was more than a little P.O'd by Brett's response and misinterpretation of a lot of what I said

I didn't misinterpret anything you said. Everything you said was quite clear......and borderline insane.

G-Town's Comment
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DISTURBD wrote:

Well, I have to admit, I was more than a little P.O'd by Brett's response and misinterpretation of a lot of what I said and had to give myself a while to cool down. Although I do admit that I was harsher than I should have been in my earlier posts.

Is that your only admission? I have read most of your threads from the beginning DISTURBD and for the most part found them to be interesting and informative. Actually thought you had "what-it-takes" to make it. But once you started having issues with the Steven's Doctor, having difficulty finding anything of value in your recent tirades and offer concern for your future success. For the record I completely agree with Brett and would have responded to this earlier but have been extremely busy of late. Although I truly empathize with the issues you are having, I have zero tolerance for the way you are handling it and acting out your aggression on this forum. If we had a TT time-out chair, I'd put you in it.

First of all, you are an educated man (a former teacher) so for you to question the competence of a certified professional in a field you know nothing about is completely opposite of what I'd expect and rather arrogant. Ready, fire, aim...really? Aren't you smarter than that? The Doctor absolutely must have proper documentation in place to not only satisfy the increasingly strict requirements of DOT , but also satisfy Steven's liability is covered in the event you are in a serious accident. He is a scientist, must remain objective, cannot render a decision on theory, and exercise due process regardless of your emotions or personal stake in this. Ample documentation must exist and be recorded to support his "all-clear" decision. The man you wanted to "murder" is a Doctor, you sir are not. Furthermore, your VA Doctor is in no position to question the Steven's Doctor because his a** is not the one responsible if something were to happen. With so much on the line (safety & liability) would you take someone's word for something without proof? I seriously doubt it.

Second, trucking is not the place for someone to fly-off the handle in fits of rage. This business is full of the unexpected; other drivers doing stupid things around us or in front of us, constant delays at shippers/receivers, breakdowns, traffic jams, inclement weather, and basic mistakes that amount to us, the driver needing to adjust to every issue. This must be done with professionalism, a cool head and without loss of focus. Patience is one of the top characteristics a driver needs to be truly successful. Ask any of the experienced drivers on this forum, and they will agree, consistent patience is mandatory. Are you a patient man? Do you think for one minute your driver manager at Steven's will respond in a positive manner if you threaten to murder him cause you were left sitting over a holiday weekend? No Sir, you'll be fired.

Your hand tremors not withstanding, I for one do not want to be next to you on the highway if you happen to be throwing a raging hissy fit like the one you recently demonstrated. I don't know if your over-the-top behavior is done so for affect, or if it's who you really are, but regardless, it's really not necessary to make your point, in fact it actually reduces your credibility. Get a grip.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Driver Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

DSTURBD's Comment
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DISTURBD wrote:

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Well, I have to admit, I was more than a little P.O'd by Brett's response and misinterpretation of a lot of what I said and had to give myself a while to cool down. Although I do admit that I was harsher than I should have been in my earlier posts.

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Is that your only admission? I have read most of your threads from the beginning DISTURBD and for the most part found them to be interesting and informative. Actually thought you had "what-it-takes" to make it. But once you started having issues with the Steven's Doctor, having difficulty finding anything of value in your recent tirades and offer concern for your future success. For the record I completely agree with Brett and would have responded to this earlier but have been extremely busy of late. Although I truly empathize with the issues you are having, I have zero tolerance for the way you are handling it and acting out your aggression on this forum. If we had a TT time-out chair, I'd put you in it.

First of all, you are an educated man (a former teacher) so for you to question the competence of a certified professional in a field you know nothing about is completely opposite of what I'd expect and rather arrogant. Ready, fire, aim...really? Aren't you smarter than that? The Doctor absolutely must have proper documentation in place to not only satisfy the increasingly strict requirements of DOT , but also satisfy Steven's liability is covered in the event you are in a serious accident. He is a scientist, must remain objective, cannot render a decision on theory, and exercise due process regardless of your emotions or personal stake in this. Ample documentation must exist and be recorded to support his "all-clear" decision. The man you wanted to "murder" is a Doctor, you sir are not. Furthermore, your VA Doctor is in no position to question the Steven's Doctor because his a** is not the one responsible if something were to happen. With so much on the line (safety & liability) would you take someone's word for something without proof? I seriously doubt it.

Second, trucking is not the place for someone to fly-off the handle in fits of rage. This business is full of the unexpected; other drivers doing stupid things around us or in front of us, constant delays at shippers/receivers, breakdowns, traffic jams, inclement weather, and basic mistakes that amount to us, the driver needing to adjust to every issue. This must be done with professionalism, a cool head and without loss of focus. Patience is one of the top characteristics a driver needs to be truly successful. Ask any of the experienced drivers on this forum, and they will agree, consistent patience is mandatory. Are you a patient man? Do you think for one minute your driver manager at Steven's will respond in a positive manner if you threaten to murder him cause you were left sitting over a holiday weekend? No Sir, you'll be fired.

Your hand tremors not withstanding, I for one do not want to be next to you on the highway if you happen to be throwing a raging hissy fit like the one you recently demonstrated. I don't know if your over-the-top behavior is done so for affect, or if it's who you really are, but regardless, it's really not necessary to make your point, in fact it actually reduces your credibility. Get a grip.

Okay, once again, I apologize for getting overly upset about the situation. The murder comment was made in a completely humorous way and with only that intention. The person who responded right after that got it the way it was intended as evidenced in the smileys used in both posts.

I was venting my frustration over the situation to get it out of my system and try to feel a little better and think in a little more level-headed manner, but obviously I got carried away. I now realize that this is not the place to do that as many seem to take everything literally. I vent verbally and not physically. That way, I can scream and yell a little bit, get it out of my system and feel a little better, and then do what needs to be done to handle effectively whatever is going on.

At the same time though, it is only fair to state that this new direction means a great deal to me and I have literally everything personally and financially depending on it. I did everything I could beforehand to assure success, when deciding whether to go for it or not, as I knew I would have to go all in or not go at all. I am all in. I am still all in and have every intention of doing this well and very professionally.

Also, in describing my demeanor and how I actually conduct myself in a professional situation, many of my students frequently made statements such as, "You're the most laid back teacher we have!" and other very similar comments. Some teachers were yellers, some were the last ones you would ever want to make mad in class, etc. I think many of you got a truly misconceived idea of who and how I am as a person and I take responsibility for that.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Driver Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

DSTURBD's Comment
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However, getting verbal in an environment where many have shared similar difficulties, I thought it would be understood and possibly a safe place to let off a little steam and get it out of my system so I could get back to doing what had to be done to resolve the situation. I did not yell at the doctor or get, in the least disrespectful. I did not yell at anyone at Stevens, or get in any way disrespectful. I came to what I thought was a safe place to get it out and get my head straight again about it and go from there. I won't make that mistake again, I assure you. Yes, some of what I said was over the top and ridiculous from a completely serious standpoint, it was meant to be! That's all part of just why it works to get the frustration out. Being facetious and sarcastic about a situation is sometimes exactly what it takes to feel better about a situation that you know you have little, if any, control over.

Again, yes, I went a little over the top and got carried away but I was just so very frustrated as this means so very much to me and for that I apologize. which is all I can really do. If that is not good enough, I don't know what else to do.

(Even my screen name was given to me ironically as it is basically the opposite of who i am.) DSTURBD

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