Starting Prime Orientation Aug 22. NEED PSD Trainer.

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GARY D.'s Comment
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Finishing my orientation training Monday. Going flatbed but there is a shortage of flatbed trainers around here in Springfield for what I can gather. Looking forward to getting down the road and on to the next phase. I drove CC back in the late 80's and never grandfathered to CDL and went into construction. Now going back out and have to start from scratch.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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Finishing my orientation training Monday. Going flatbed but there is a shortage of flatbed trainers around here in Springfield for what I can gather. Looking forward to getting down the road and on to the next phase. I drove CC back in the late 80's and never grandfathered to CDL and went into construction. Now going back out and have to start from scratch.

Gary hang in there. Most trainers are on vacation, wo am I.

As for this original poster, not only did he constantly gice his PSD trainer proboems to the point that the trainer told Prime he was not a good candidate for trucking. During training all he did was discuss leasing and fuel consumption rather tha HOS and trip planning. you can find threads where he argued with us cause he knew better.

After 1 month he was fired due to 3 accidents. Prime offered him to go back into training, his reaction was beligieremce and threats of law suits.

This attitude is why most drivers fail.

Good luck!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
GARY D.'s Comment
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Thanks for the encouragement. After talking to a few drivers I am going to go reffer with automatic to give the knee a break. That and the start up cost for flatbed seems costly when starting a lease option for me. Looking to older truck with sound mechanical and short lease to get pay out and release with start up cap to bank from 1st lease. If someone is going to leave money on the table I won't let it go to waste. Imo.

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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Thanks for the encouragement. After talking to a few drivers I am going to go reffer with automatic to give the knee a break. That and the start up cost for flatbed seems costly when starting a lease option for me. Looking to older truck with sound mechanical and short lease to get pay out and release with start up cap to bank from 1st lease. If someone is going to leave money on the table I won't let it go to waste. Imo.

Im a trainer and 3 plus year driver at prime. DO NOT go lease until you have a year in and get SOLID info from other lease ops with real info not inflated numbers.

trust me. most of them lie or dont understand the business. many cant even reas their settlements

Old School's Comment
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If someone is going to leave money on the table I won't let it go to waste. Imo.

Please don't lease a truck. It is a fools game, and you don't even know how to play the game yet.

Gary, I'm a long time business owner, and I have run the numbers repeatedly. There's no way you're going to make more money as a lease/operator. The way to make money out here is to master the concepts that make for success in trucking and put them into practice daily. A good strong solid company driver will always come out on top at the end of the day.

Show Me The Money!

Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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That is a fast ticket to bankruptcy.

Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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I strongly urge you to reconsider leasing, it seems good on paper but it is a quick way to financial ruin. I can guarantee you, you will make as much money just driving a company truck as would leasing, without all the financial risk and stress.

You need to learn how to drive a truck, and do not need to worry about running a business at the same time.

Daniel B.'s Comment
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I gave Jetguy my cell phone number to mentor him.

I made a comment on TT long ago and he called me to tell me how he disliked my comment (as if I cared). He was a whacko.

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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I gave Jetguy my cell phone number to mentor him.

I made a comment on TT long ago and he called me to tell me how he disliked my comment (as if I cared). He was a whacko.

He texted me months later and recognized that he was totally entaptured by all the wrong things. he didnt concern himself with learning to drive and procedures. he only consumed himself with learning to lease. so when it came to going solo, he couldnt hack it and blamed everyone else.

My advice to anyone reading this...step by step. Get that CDL , complete training to learn procedures and handling the machine, go solo to learn trip planning time management and backing, and once you prove after a year that you wont hit anything and be productive with on time delivery, then try a short lease of 3 to 6 months that was left on someone elses lease (the fact these are available so often in itself proves leasing is not the answer). its better to try it for a short time AFTER you learn the ropes.

My boyfriend just told me, "Oh man, if you went lease, i would learn so much"...hes been leasing for 4 years and thinks everyone should do it. But he recognizes everyone keeps learning and since im an overachiever...well..

When I get mad i start yelling im going lease for more freedom. But truth is i have more freedom than a lease op and make the same amount of money.

Perfect example.... i requested Dec 23rd to be home. I dropped my student in MS on the 21st and got a TYSON load i had to sit on for a day which is rare for me. The load from MS to NJ had 2 stops on the 24th. My FM told me i "should be able to swap out when i get closer". I was mad and took that to mean "good luck with that" or he would have said "will swap you out later". My FM would be off and i would be screwed.

On the 22nd, i was 1200 miles from home and told dispatch i would be dropping the load at a yard 30 miles from home. He said he would work on it on the 23rd. I was mad and had in my head i would go lease so i could negotiate accepting a load.

On the 23rd, dispatch asked for an ETA to the drop yard cause they had someone there for me to meet. I got home the night of the 23rd. Then i had personal issues that required me to make my 4 days home time into my week long paid vacation.

Had i been lease i might not have been able to do that cause i would have to worry about that truck/insurance payment.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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then try a short lease of 3 to 6 months that was left on someone elses lease (the fact these are available so often in itself proves leasing is not the answer).

As soon as I read the first part, the part in parenthesis is exactly what popped into my head. If it paid so well, no one would quit early.

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