Non-CDL C Driver And K Plates

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Jing H.'s Comment
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Hi all, I am seeking help on clarification of Illinois truck rules and regulations.

My company is running a fleet of box trucks with H plates with Non-CDL C Class drivers.

Now we have just ordered a fleet of new Hino 268 (GWR 25950) with upgrades to handle a heavier load. We would like to upgrade our H plates to K plates, so that we can put more weight on these new trucks without getting a ticket. Now does that mean our current Non-CDL C Class drivers need to upgrade their licenses to B classes as well in order to legally driver these trucks?

Thanks much in advance for your help.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Bill F.'s Comment
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Off of the Fed's website: FED LINK

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CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Kevin H.'s Comment
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Interesting question. And I don't know the answer because I don't live in IL and even if I did I probably wouldn't be familiar with the law. But my 5 minutes of research (googling) tells me that if you register it with a gwvr of 26000 lbs or less, you don't need a class b to drive it, but it would also technically be illegal to operate it at weights over that.
Kevin H.'s Comment
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Sorry, that'sounds gvwr. Also thought i'do add, you should probably ask the people who register the trucks.

GVWR:

Gross Vehicle Weight Rating

GVWR is the maximum operating weight of a vehicle as specified by the manufacturer, minus any trailers.
Bill F.'s Comment
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I think you need to upgrade licenses.

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