Pistol Carry In Truck?

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Rick S.'s Comment
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I see, so it's more of a permitting issue than anything. im going to assume that you cannot get a permit for any other state except the one in which you live? So, it would be impossible for one to get all the permits required to carry across all states?

Just wondering, I'm not knowledgeable about all of the gun laws.

Most states that are "shall issue" (meaning, unless you have nothing in your background that prohibits you from a permit - the state MUST GIVE YOU ONE) have reciprocity agreements with other states. Florida will issue a "Non-Resident Permit" for example, that is only valid in FLORIDA. This is for folks from places up north (like NYC) that come down frequently (snowbirds) that just can't get permits in NYC - but don't want to change their permanent residence to FL.

My Florida permit is valid everywhere EXCEPT: California, Connecticut, District of Columbia, Guam, Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, New York City, Oregon, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island, Virgin Islands, Washington, Wisconsin, American Samoa, N. Mariana Islands

So you don't have to get a permit for every state you travel through.

But just what & where those states allow you to carry - varies from state to state. Example: My Florida Concealed Firearm or Weapon permit - allow me to carry pretty much anything I am legal to possess in this state in a concealed manner. But if I go to Georgia - I am only allowed to carry a FIREARM concealed - because that's all their license covers. And the places I can't carry in GA, are similar to FL - but there are some differences.

Since I'm a gun and gun-law "nut" - it is MY RESPONSIBILITY to find out what is legal and not legal, wherever I may roam.

Fatsquatch - you telling me you ain't gonna believe "some guy on the internet" is a two way street Bro. I got MY INFO, from a Florida Highway Patrol Major that I shoot with, and Marion Hammer - Fl's NRA legislative lobbyist (and past president of the NRA) - so that's GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME.

Though I would CHALLENGE YOU TO FIND AND POST the state or federal statute that backs up your claim - though I doubt you can, because they DO NOT EXIST (and believe me, I've looked).

JakeBrake is right - company policy aside. There are TOO MANY STATES that we travel to that we are NOT LEGAL IN - that it's just NOT WORTH THE RISK. And I've taken that risk with my Band Tour Bus - even (stupidly) crossed into Canada and back (more then once) for gigs - with a firearm (well) hidden on the bus. VERY STUPID OF ME - but since it was MY BUS and I SET COMPANY POLICY ON MY BUS - I did so.

Again - (for Sambo) there are ZERO FEDERAL OR STATE LAWS THAT PROHIBIT FIREARMS SPECIFICALLY ON COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. Absent a carry permit that is valid in the state you are in STATE/LOCAL LAWS REGARDING FIREARMS IN ANY MOTOR VEHICLE APPLY.

Rick

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Rick S.'s Comment
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And a second quick note - a carry permit applies when are CARRYING THE FIREARM. If it is NOT ON YOUR PERSON IN A LEGAL MANNER - then it must be secured in the vehicle however the particular jurisdictions laws require.

I had an argument with a Ft. Lauderdale cop during a traffic stop over this (and cops are NOT LAWYERS, and many DO NOT KNOW THE LAW). After the stop - where he tried to tell me the pistol I was carrying was STOLEN - made him call his SUPERVISOR, and I showed the Sarge the RECEIPT for the weapon - (I carry copies of the receipts for ALL my carry pieces) - the officer wanted to put the gun UNDER THE PASSENGER SEAT.

Told him NOT TO - it is ILLEGAL TO HAVE AN UN-CASED GUN UNDER A SEAT IN FLORIDA. He wanted to argue the point, until I asked him to call his supervisor again. Made him put it in the GLOVE BOX where it IS LEGAL (I was worried he was trying to set me up, after I embarrassed him in front of his sargent).

Needless to say - the cop wasn't happy with me - but I FOLLOW THE LAWS TO THE LETTER, or risk FORFEITING MY RIGHTS.

Rick

Sambo's Comment
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Requiring a permit to exercise a Constitutional right means you have already lost the right.

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There are no thumbs up, so you get a dancing dog instead....same premise though.

Rick S.'s Comment
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Requiring a permit to exercise a Constitutional right means you have already lost the right.

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There are no thumbs up, so you get a dancing dog instead....same premise though.

Not really the right place to kick this can down the road...

Rick

John L.'s Comment
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I'll start off by saying that I am not a truck driver, but rather just someone considering a career change (returning to college to get a degree didn't help). Therefore I am here to learn more about truck driving, with the hope of making a more informed decision.

I do know a lot about firearms law generally. First, if you are going to carry a firearm in your truck, it is your responsibility to learn the applicable laws of the state(s) you will likely be making deliveries in. A carry permit in one state does not necessarily allow you to carry in another--laws vary state to state. What is legal in one state may land you in prison in the next (example, PA vs. NJ). This is one area where ignorance of the law is no defense.

Second, I would highly suggest you get your information from a credible source. In my experience, if you ask any six police officers the same question, you will get six different answers, and likely they will all be wrong. Cops do not always know the law or how it specifically relates to your situation. Internet forums can get overwhelming and are often intertwined with false or misleading information, causing confusion to even an experienced gun enthusiast. I suggest starting your research with a state gun rights organization--they often have helpful materials on their websites (or can refer you to some)that have been researched by lawyers specializing in this area.

Third, if you are going to make the decision to carry a gun at all, get trained, and train regularly. It's not enough to just target shoot--there is a huge difference between knowing how to shoot a gun and how to fight with one.

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Operating While Intoxicated

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