On My Own & Driving Solo

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Phoenix's Comment
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How are you doing out there Phoenix?

wtf.gif Does that answer your question? Lol. A googly eyed emotie would be perfect here! I have just spent the past 3.5 hours trying to get a load legal and pins on tandems and 5th wheel unstuck. This conversation has my brain spinning out worse than trying to remember if I just moved forward or backward so i know which way to adjust. Stop the merry go roun...I want OFF!! rofl-1.gif

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Phoenix's Comment
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So much to say here, so little time until tomorrow. Long story short, 2200.. actually 2321... I did in the allotted 3.5 days time by ..Wait for it lol...running down my 70. I had 25.25 hours left when they gave me an 1875 mile run. This is the one I can't do. Tomorrow I'm meeting a team in Joplin, who will take it from me. I picked it up this morning at 10am and it delivers on the 149th at 0700, and I had to start My clock two hours before p/u, and then scale it ( which normally takes 20 min or less). My question originally was how 8/2 splits would get it there ( if I'd had time on my 70) when driving full 11s wouldn't, which is what I'm used to running. I'm so tired now I'm not sure I've even said that correctly.

Phoenix's Comment
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Ugh, sorry...14th...autocorrect. Someone said "preview is my friend"..I concur lol.

Phoenix's Comment
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Splitting your breaks let's you use 100% of your drive time.

This confuses me. The ONLY time your drive time disappears is when you drive. Therefore, I'm under the assumption that I ALWAYS use 100% of my drive time. confused.gif

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

G-Town's Comment
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Splitting your breaks let's you use 100% of your drive time.

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This confuses me. The ONLY time your drive time disappears is when you drive. Therefore, I'm under the assumption that I ALWAYS use 100% of my drive time. confused.gif

It had us all confused. Live to fight another day...

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

Phoenix's Comment
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Glad I'm not alone lol.

Some advice from after hours was to go back over previous trips and see where I could have done 8/2 splits and how they may have helped. Also, my company's policy is to only do 8/2 splits and not 2/8 splits. Apparently they get even more confusing when the 2 is taken first, and there were many 14hr log violations because of it.

Oh, on a positive note, I had a really difficult back today where traffic had to be stopped for me and I aced it! Felt like doing a happy dance. dancing-dog.gif

G-Town's Comment
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Phoenix wrote:

Oh, on a positive note, I had a really difficult back today where traffic had to be stopped for me and I aced it! Felt like doing a happy dance.

Good for you Phoenix...good for you! Confidence now...believe that you are truck driver, a truck driver with skills.

Tractor Man's Comment
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My last word on splits. I don't know why your DM is pushing you to do splits. They will not get you where you are going any sooner. You have enough on your plate right now trying to run solo and backing issues. They can be confusing and you may screw up your HOS and cause unnecessary delays/ problems. Just my $.02

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Isaac H.'s Comment
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The reason why 8/2 splits is so hard to explain is because IT MAKES NO SENSE.

Honestly I've been driving for 8 months and these clocks still make very little sense to me. I know how they work but it seems like Mickey mouse came up with this stuff.

If i was to venture a guess at how this got put together i would guess that collectively the truck drivers said "ok federal government...make up whatever rules you want we have erasable ink and we'll just fill out these paper logs to read whatever you want them to read"

Fast forward to 2016 and now everything it's electronic and everything is documented down to the minute that it's crazy. I mean why don't paper logs have minutes on them and now we have to be governed to the minute when it was to the quarter hour on paper?

Sometimes i feel like captain hook at the end of the movie hook with all the clocks chiming at once.

I was a quality inspector for a medical device company and i wrote programs with a CMM that made measurements down to the micron so I'm pretty good with numbers.

When i say the split break uses 100% of your drive time i mean it allows you to use ALL of your 11 hour clock to drive. It is similar to shutting down with 0:00 on your clock.

Sure, if you can shut down every night with 0:00 EVERY night and take a 10 hour break that would be awesome but really when does that happen.

You could go your entire career just using 10 hour breaks. The 8/2 split is just another way of managing your clock that is all.

Glad I'm not alone lol.

Some advice from after hours was to go back over previous trips and see where I could have done 8/2 splits and how they may have helped. Also, my company's policy is to only do 8/2 splits and not 2/8 splits. Apparently they get even more confusing when the 2 is taken first, and there were many 14hr log violations because of it.

Oh, on a positive note, I had a really difficult back today where traffic had to be stopped for me and I aced it! Felt like doing a happy dance. dancing-dog.gif

G-Town's Comment
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Isaac wrote:

Honestly I've been driving for 8 months and these clocks still make very little sense to me. I know how they work but it seems like Mickey mouse came up with this stuff.

Which is exactly why you should stop trying to explain something (especially split sleeper) you do not understand. Honestly!

I'll let this link do all the talking:

Learn The Logbook Rules (HOS)

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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