School Or Pick A Company? And How Do I Choose Between Company Driver Or Owner Operator?

if you stick in the butt naysaying brow beaters can't handle the truth then gfy's.

Brocephus with that parting shot, you probably just revealed the biggest reason you have struggled at trucking. You're a totally class-less fool who can't recognize honest help and advice when it's offered to you completely free with no expectation of even the smallest token of gratitude.

At least you did one thing right by resurrecting this old thread that caused you to quit our forum. You brought to the forefront a lot of great advice that you still don't comprehend.

Well thanks. I meant I quit it after I read about if I was asking for someone to hold my hand. I couldn't actually find a "quit" button so I just ignored this whole "if you don't agree with us your an idiot" forum. But after time and thought I felt like some kind of update was somehow necessary. Now please explain to me specifically how I am a classless fool. Because I actually am grateful for useful advice and will acknowledge when I get it.

Because I actually am grateful for useful advice and will acknowledge when I get it.

See, you're delusional. You actually consider yourself a grateful person even though you've never once thanked us for anything and even told us to go F ourselves. So the idea that your company is completely to blame and you've done everything the right way is no doubt delusional also.

By the way, we recognize that your type doesn't come here to learn from us. You come here expecting us to verify that everything you're saying is true. You expect us to jump on your bandwagon and blame everyone else for your problems the way you do. When we won't do that you don't consider our advice to be useful.

What you should realize is that you're not happy and you're not having success in trucking the way you should be at this point so some sort of change in your approach is clearly in order. When we tell you to do things differently than you are it should trigger something in your head that goes something like, "Well, that isn't what I've been doing. Maybe that's my problem. I'll try taking their advice, change my approach, and see if it works."

That's not your thinking though. Your thinking is, "I'm right and my company is wrong. If you can't see that then go F yourself."

Like I said, you're hardheaded. You aren't learning. Until you recognize that you're taking the wrong approach to this industry you're going to continue to make enemies, lose money, and beat your head against the wall.

By the way, I realize nothing we say is probably ever going to help you but it is going to help others. They'll get to see the wrong approach and the wrong attitude so they won't make the same mistakes when it's their turn.

Now please explain to me specifically how I am a classless fool.

Because a rookie telling us to go F ourselves when we're obviously doing everything we can to help doesn't register with you as being a classless fool. Man, you really do need every little obvious thing explained to you, don't you? No wonder you're always complaining that no one will hold your hand through this process. You really need it. You don't seem to be able to figure out even the most obvious and basic things.

Now please explain to me specifically how I am a classless fool. Because I actually am grateful for useful advice and will acknowledge when I get it.

You missed one "key" word in what I said. And somehow it doesn't surprise me. I never said you weren't "grateful for useful advice." I said you "can't recognize" it.

If you need us to explain how your comments showed you were class-less, it just goes to show that you're clue-less also. These attributes are exactly why you've struggled at trucking.

But after time and thought I felt like some kind of update was somehow necessary

Interestingly enough it wasn't necessary. We told you to change your approach, we told you things were going to end badly if you didn't. Well you didn't change your approach and things ended badly.

We are disappointed to hear that things aren't working out for you because helping people get their career off to a great start is our mission. We love what we're doing here at TruckingTruth and we love to see people be happy and successful in this industry. Unfortunately there are some people who obviously aren't going to get very far if they don't change their approach, we recognize those types right away, and we obviously recognized that you're one of those. I do sincerely hope you'll figure this out, but I have my doubts.

You've given us updates on your situation for an entire year and so far from your perspective the only person who hasn't done anything wrong is you. Your company sucks and we can go F ourselves for our useless information. Yet you're the rookie driver while your company has been successful at the highest level for decades and the people you're cussing out have been successful at the highest level for many years themselves.

You're the new guy in this industry and you're the only one in this conversation who hasn't found a high level of success and yet none of that is your fault? Do you really believe that?

Brocephus, I just reread this thread and instantly remembered you. Things ended for you exactly the way all of us experienced drivers knew it would end for you - miserably. How else could it end? You're a miserable dude who just doesn't get it and doesn't listen.

They didn't end miserably. I put in my two week notice on my one year anniversary, was called (no documentation of course) and told how wrong it was that I was lied to about every other weekend off but "how about every weekend off"? I said sure. Because I'm honest and assume that most people are honest. Two weeks later, after it was clear that I wasn't going home for the weekend, again no qaulcomm response, but I did get another phone call offering "How about every weekend off?" I said "That's what the last guy told me." He said "Who told you that?" I qualcommed my dm if I was going home that weekend, surprise, no response. So I'm a ****ing idiot for doing my job, believing my employer, and getting upset when they treat me like ****? My hours of service are documented.

was called (no documentation of course) and told how wrong it was that I was lied to about every other weekend off

Oh, ok. Your company called you and apologized for lying to you? Come on, man. You're talking to someone who has been in this industry almost my entire adult life.

My hours of service are documented

Your hours of service have nothing to do with anything. Your attitude has everything to do with everything.

Of course I have no idea what your performance has been and I wouldn't take your word for it at this point even if you offered. I already know you don't believe you've ever done anything wrong so you would never admit that your performance had fallen short if it had.

They didn't end miserably

Yes, they did. You were miserable the entire time you were there. You left because after a year you were still miserable.

Listen, quit wasting your time trying to convince us that you're the perfect driver who was abused by the big, evil company. You're barking up the wrong tree. People come here to learn what it takes to be successful in this industry. That's not what you're here for. You're here to try to convince us that you're a great guy and a great driver who did everything right and the company is an evil empire who continuously wronged you. Well you've told us to go F ourselves after we put in a ton of time trying to help you so we know what kind of person you are and why you're not happy. You're the only one who hasn't figured it out yet.

I think that's enough arguing for a Sunday morning. I think there's enough here for everyone to draw their own conclusions about what went wrong for you and who is to blame for it.

I don't do html formating, so I'm obviously at an advantage. But, I ran hard, like adrafinil hard, for a company that showed pretty much no interest in my personal concerns or questions as a "BRAND ****ING NEW" driver. Like, brand new, I have no idea about anything with this industry new. With a company advertising that they would teach me. Bait and switch. Yes, I got baited. If that bothers you, then yes, you should definitely go **** yourself for responding.

Am I delusional? No. What I was, is naive. I'm not failing at this industry. I'm not a ****ty driver, I like driving. I like driving safe. I like getting to a customer on time. I like being nice. I like being treated with respect. I like not being lied to. My personality isn't aggressive, I don't fall into one of the aggressive personality types. I'm a go along, get along kind of person. I'll push through a mountain to get to a destination if that's what the job requires. Now. Go **** yourself. Because your an assumptive ******* pretending to understand someone based on some ****ing gross generalization you've fabricated in your mind. And I happen to be the target of that generalization. So your not actually offering me career advice, your just ****ed that I don't fit your ****ing card board box version of ****ing reality. And I'll just keep driving, delivering loads on time and doing what I do best, ideally for a company that isn't ****ing paint by numbers/throwaway drivers.

Ok, this is the last comment I'm going to approve from you and I wasn't going to approve this one until I saw this gem in the middle of your "go F yourself" rant:

I like being nice.....My personality isn't aggressive, I don't fall into one of the aggressive personality types. I'm a go along, get along kind of person.

I rest my case. I'll let the jury decide from here.

Good day to you.

This is borderline insanity! It's absolutely ludicrous!

This is borderline insanity! It's absolutely ludicrous!

It really is! It's like a Saturday Night Live skit.