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In Errol's diagram the incorrect is the button hook and the correct is the jug handle. Button hooks do have a place when used properly to turn onto a narrow street or to help avoid an obstacle. But then again that is my opinion. I mainly jug handle my turns, but I have been in situations where I have had to button hook. What Errol's diagram doesn't show is when doing a button hook is stopping about a car length back from an intersection and begin the swing to the left early. I view it as a tool. A useful one if needed. Example: there is a narrow road which you need to make a right hand turn onto AND there is construction on the far side of the street. You obviously can not use the "oncoming" lane of the direction you are turning at that point. You have to make up the turning radius somewhere.

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In Errol's diagram the incorrect is the button hook and the correct is the jug handle.

Are you saying that the turn labeled "Jug Handle INCORRECT" is what you call a button hook? Yeah, I think that's where the confusion is coming from. I have a feeling that everyone agrees that the turn labeled "Button Hook CORRECT" in the diagram is the right way to do it, if there's room, regardless of what you call it. But that diagram shows a "truck friendly" intersection where the corners aren't sharp and the lanes are wide. If the corners were sharp I don't think you'd be able to make that from the right lane.

Anyway, thanks Errol for clarifying.

The diagram is from the state of California. They're terms for Jughead turning.

I'll stick with my "style": no drifting off a lane before you start the turn, straight into the intersection, and turn into the second lane out. That's the path called "button hook" in my picture. Works every time.

In my training diary I wrote about a small town in Louisiana where the main highway is two lanes, and there's a turn onto another two lane road. The locals know what's happening better than the truck drivers, and they stop allowing trucks plenty of room.

Thank you Errol. I believe we're all on the same page. Pesky semantics. I wanted to make sure our new readers didn't get confused.

Brett's response is consistent. If I'm not mistaken, I had mentioned doing a button hook in school and he wasn't familiar with the term. Guess he forgot it again after a few years.

You do the thinga-ma-jig not the thinga-ma-bob. Whatever you do, don't do the whirly-whirl. That is bad. LoL