CRST Non-Compete

Sorry just realized the messages ive been sending on my phone aren't going through but the reason why they said I cant drive for them is because I got a ticket for an improper lane change and I have to wait 3 years from that date to be able to drive for them again and this happened roughly 2 years after I left them that's why I said 5 they are wanting me to have a completely clean driving record for a length of 3 years I contacted them 6 months after I started to go back and finish contract but at that time they wanted me to wait 2 yrs to start back with them and now the 3 years for the ticket even though I had a seat belt violation when I started with then which is out of there 3 year window now so all I have is the improper lane change violation

Sorry just realized the messages ive been sending on my phone aren't going through but the reason why they said I cant drive for them is because I got a ticket for an improper lane change and I have to wait 3 years from that date to be able to drive for them again and this happened roughly 2 years after I left them that's why I said 5 they are wanting me to have a completely clean driving record for a length of 3 years I contacted them 6 months after I started to go back and finish contract but at that time they wanted me to wait 2 yrs to start back with them and now the 3 years for the ticket even though I had a seat belt violation when I started with then which is out of there 3 year window now so all I have is the improper lane change violation

Improper lane change in a COMMERCIAL VEHICLE or a car?

Did you at least try and fight the ticket?

Most companies - especially STARTER/STUDENT companies allow for a citation or two in the last 5 years - especially if they weren't in a truck. Better to not have ANY though, than to have to explain them.

At any rate - sounds like they're putting the screws to you. But in reality - you don't really have much of a choice at this point.

Rick

Yes it was in a commercial vehicle for landscaping either way they are being a pain about it I am willing to work with them and get it paid in full if they would work with me other wise I'm going to have to file bankruptcy because at my current income level my other bills are starting to catch up with me too and I am not having much luck in the area finding a better paying job outside the trucking industry about 75 percent of the jobs that pay more than 30,000 a year are truck driving jobs or jobs I don't have recent experience in.

Yes it was in a commercial vehicle for landscaping either way they are being a pain about it I am willing to work with them and get it paid in full if they would work with me other wise I'm going to have to file bankruptcy because at my current income level my other bills are starting to catch up with me too and I am not having much luck in the area finding a better paying job outside the trucking industry about 75 percent of the jobs that pay more than 30,000 a year are truck driving jobs or jobs I don't have recent experience in.

A citation in a COMMERCIAL VEHICLE is going to be more "heavily weighted" by any companies insurance carrier, then if it was in a POV. That's just the way it is. Training Companies are already "high risk" because of inexperienced drivers. I would think a 2 year old citation would be OK - but I'm not them. The fact that it was in a CMV , changes the ballgame significantly.

MAKE SURE the debt is showing as a COLLECTION - and make sure (by checking with a bankruptcy attorney) that you can BANKRUPT OUT A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION if it's NOT SHOWING AS A COLLECTION.

You "should be able to" in either case. I'm also not 100% sure - if the bankruptcy wipes the non-compete. It may wipe out the DEBT, and not the NON-COMPETE - they may end up being two separate issues. Though "logically", if the debt were uncollectable and no longer existed due to it being wiped by a bankruptcy - the requirement for it to be paid in order to gain relief/release from the non-compete should be moot.

I did a bankruptcy after the housing crash of '08 - but I took mortgages, a truck note and credit card debt to the tune of $750K into my bankruptcy. Mine was a "strategic default" - a business decision.

I would MAKE SURE that a bankruptcy would wipe the non-compete before you do it. Otherwise, it doesn't make much sense to screw around with a Chapter 7 for $6-10K in debt.

Rick

Ive already contacted a bankruptcy attorney and they said the same thing about if the debt is dismissed they shouldn't be able to hold me in a non compete either way its not what I really want to do I rather just come to an agreement where I can pay it all but the debt id be getting rid of is around 85k ive been back and forth with them for about the last year and haven't got anywhere with them even if the non compete somehow still stand afterwards I wont need such a high income because I wont have to pay back the debt ive just been trying to avoid bankruptcy but at that point I can take time a search for a different career ill just have to wait and see what happens the bankruptcy hurts them more than me though my credit is already gone and it would take me longer than the ten years it has to stay on my record to get all the debt paid off at this rate

theres a lot of on going issues with crst. I work for thwm right now. & its hell. Like i enjoy it for the most part but they have been very vague on a lot of things lately. Any & all contact you have with them should be through email text or some form to be printed out & shown to a lawyer. If they answer vaguly keep asking the question. Ive heard people say they havent paid them & have been able to get a cdl job else where. You gotta explain the situation show them proof of what happened. Like i said its not to bad. Im running good miles a week. Roughly $600 twice a week. Not including layovers or tolls or other things for the truck. You may have had a bad trainer or a bad co driver. Try contatcing ben willams. Hes the direction of operations. Hes a fair man & ive never had a problwm with him.

theres a lot of on going issues with crst. I work for thwm right now. & its hell. Like i enjoy it for the most part but they have been very vague on a lot of things lately. Any & all contact you have with them should be through email text or some form to be printed out & shown to a lawyer. If they answer vaguly keep asking the question. Ive heard people say they havent paid them & have been able to get a cdl job else where. You gotta explain the situation show them proof of what happened. Like i said its not to bad. Im running good miles a week. Roughly $600 twice a week. Not including layovers or tolls or other things for the truck. You may have had a bad trainer or a bad co driver. Try contatcing ben willams. Hes the direction of operations. Hes a fair man & ive never had a problwm with him.

Wow, I've been staring at this mess for 10 minutes trying to figure out where to get started.

So it's hell, but you enjoy it for the most part? Great. Sounds like an actionable and cohesive set of opinions.

You've heard people say they haven't paid them but have been able to get a CDL job elsewhere? Always our favorite way to pass information around in the trucking industry - unsubstantiated trucker rumors.

Like i said its not to bad

Actually you never said that until right then. What you actually had said was that it was hell but you enjoy it for the most part. So it's hell but it's not too bad and you enjoy it for the most part. That's like being freezing cold but sorta warm and pretty comfortable.

Any & all contact you have with them should be through email text or some form to be printed out & shown to a lawyer.

Are you sure it's so it can be shown to a lawyer? Or could it possibly be they want things in writing so that a complex situation can be understood and ultimately handled by more than one person which is often necessary? Like if you claim the recruiter lied and everything was in writing you could look it up. Or if you had made a special request to dispatch about a personal situation and it had to be passed up to management for approval it would be easy to forward the written conversation to the right people.

Putting things in writing, like a company policy for instance, can also eliminate a lot of the 'he said, she said' rumors that people like to spread like:

Ive heard people say they haven't paid them and have been able to get a cdl job elsewhere.

I'll bet CRST has their entire contract and their company policies in writing so they can be reviewed and understood. We don't have to count on things like, "A guy at a truck stop once told me....." in order to make career decisions.

I'm sorry. I realize this is quite snarky but this conversation and this situation has been a complete mess from the start. We have everything we always try to avoid - unsubstantiated rumors, undeserved company bashing, exaggeration, misinformation, partial information, and contradiction. So now we've added to the mess we already have with things like, "I work for thwm right now. & its hell. Like i enjoy it for the most part."

i didnt find it snarky at all. What i ment about the hell part and bad part is sometimes they screw things up. If im on the phone they dont hear me or i dont hear them. I suggest writing because its easier to show any & all that needs to see the paper. Had a few instances where i should have been home to do my license but i wasnt and all they had to say was sorry. Well try. But my home state has a limit on how long you wait before you completely lose your cdl. You also lose your class D license. So again i suggest writing. Yes they have a lenghtly contract written but its vague in some areas. Its vague on the home time. I understand it says 4 weeks out you get 4 days home time. But then it says you leave your truck sitting for more then 4 days you lose it and will be given new one. Not sure how id be sitting more then 4 days if im only allowed 4 days. They sort of explain pay. Its supposed to be 25 cpm will all miles paid. But then in 3 months a raise to 27 cpm & so on. But then in orientation they said only half of the dead head miles will be paid for. Kind of vague in my eyes. I enjoy driving i dont think i enjoy the company is what i should have said. They arent the best but they arent the worst. But i think i could find a compnay elsewhere that sees that im a human. I understand the avoiding rumors. It can get very messy. Very ugly very quickly. But ive been told by multiple people and have been show pay stubs and other proof to say they werent paid what they should have been paid. I also have a friend who drives for them now and hes doing a lease purchase. They told him the truck was worth a lot more then what it really is. Hes questioned them on that and have recieved no vaild response. He gets the usual answer. I was told to tell you that. I wasnt aware of the proper price at that time. Im not a truck sales man i can only give you my best opinion and such. Im not telling you this as a rumor but as a ive seen it and heard it. Im telling you it from my point of veiw. This is what i see and what ive been through. Your expirence may differ but that doesnt mean my expirence isnt real.