First Cdl Accident

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Amber S.'s Comment
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Hello all, I just had my first Cdl accident and it makes me question...alot. First off I've had my class A almost a year and can't get a job driving to save my life (single mother and can't Otr). When I applied for my first driving job they stuck me in the office saying no one with a masters degree should be in a truck. I disagree. So I started training with one of my drivers who moved on to greener pastures, had permission from the owner and was good to go. The problem arose at the end of the day when getting ready for the last shuttle load, the driver left to use the restroom. And a man appeared telling me to move the truck because he was blocked in. So I got in the drivers seat started up the truck and pulled forward, then decided to just go around because it was just a big circle. As I made that first turn I didn't turn wide enough and ended up hitting another tractor that was parked there. I'm not on this owners insurance, and did about 10,000 worth of semi damage. Enough to make me question why on earth I want to continue with this in the first place.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Susan D. 's Comment
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A few questions if you dont minf.

How long ago did your accident happen?

Have you paid for the damages? Were you sued? Was the damaging truck towed? DOT Reportable?

When you got your CDL-A did you go to an accredited school for training, or was this the result of an attempted "shortcut"?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

G-Town's Comment
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I am trying to piece this together,...why were you driving a truck you weren't insured on? Things don't make any sense here; if someone asks you to move a truck that isn't yours (or one you are assigned to), even your own company; don't do it. If that was not the case and this is the truck you are assigned to as a trainee, why are you operating a CMV you are not insured on?

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
Amber S.'s Comment
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@ Susan This happened Jan.28th, on private property so the police were not involved. The truck that I hit did not belong to the owner, it belonged to another company. To my knowledge because I was not on the insurance the owner has taken both the tractor and the trailer that I damaged and is fixing them in his shop. I went to truck America training school which in itself is a accredited school but very much a shortcut. @G town Yes I do realize that my first mistake was moving the truck, I should have told him that I had to wait for the driver to get back. This move caused the driver to be removed from the account and possibly alot worse.

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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I am trying to piece this together,...why were you driving a truck you weren't insured on? Things don't make any sense here; if someone asks you to move a truck that isn't yours (or one you are assigned to), even your own company; don't do it. If that was not the case and this is the truck you are assigned to as a trainee, why are you operating a CMV you are not insured on?

Even as a CDL holder trainee my trainers wouldn't let me move the truck out of their presence. The guy had no idea who you were. You could have been a passenger without a license.

I don't understand if you meant you be had your CDL a year and never used it, or if you had the accident a year ago. .this sounds like a shady company if you are being trained without insurance....or did u cut a corner a d do it without permission?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
Amber S.'s Comment
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@Rainy I had permission from the owner of the company to be trained, but was not on his insurance. On march 8th I will have had my Cdl for one year and no have never used it. I have been a driver manager/ dispatcher and wanted to actually get some experience in a truck to learn better what my drivers go through.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Driver Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Rick S.'s Comment
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@Rainy I had permission from the owner of the company to be trained, but was not on his insurance. On march 8th I will have had my Cdl for one year and no have never used it. I have been a driver manager/ dispatcher and wanted to actually get some experience in a truck to learn better what my drivers go through.

If training involved you operating a truck - on a CLP or full CDL, you darn well better have been on his insurance.

Were you TERMINATED for the accident? Terminated from training/driving - or from your dispatch position too?

Most local driving jobs usually train in dock-to-truck or less often office-to-truck.

Local jobs with ZERO EXPERIENCE are usually pretty difficult to come by. Most folks go OTR for a year of two, then find themselves able to score good local driving gigs.

What EXACTLY is it you are trying to accomplish here? Since you are "single mom" and can't go OTR, your options are limited any way you slice it. Even if you were to decide to try OTR for the experience, you would likely need to be a YEAR AWAY from the accident, to be considered "insurable".

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Driver Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

CLP:

Commercial Learner's Permit

Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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And no offense...but if you had that accident, then you don't have the skills for a local job. The reason companies want OTR for the year is because it takes a lot.of time to be able to judge the turns, backing, speeds in various conditions and handling tight spots.

Local jobs are almost always high traffic with tight spots. Very stressful.

Any reputable company would want a true training since you have had it a year and never used it. Might even. Want you to go back to school.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

Amber S.'s Comment
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@Rick This had nothing to do with my job, I was not employed by this owner and I still have my current job. I was doing this in my days off, coming by and driving to learn. My goal is to get a local driving job by being able to pass a road test, my hope was to be able to be employed by this owner. I very much doubt that is going to happen now.

Susan D. 's Comment
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The driver?? Seriously. If the company (your employer) gave you permission to actually train and drive a truck, but didn't INSURE you... um.. what a mess.

No offense, but if I were the company owner, I'd fire you. Of course he will have to pay the damages out of his pocket.

But for the actual driver to be punished because YOU drove the truck without his knowledge and caused so much damage. .. absolutely incredible.

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