First Cdl Accident
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I see what she's saying now. The driver/owner was illegally letting her drive with him so she could learn. Nice guy, but illegal. So I completely understand the driver being penalized.
No. She's saying this driver used to work for her company. Then he left to work for a different owner. That owner of the company agreed to "training" but never put her on the insurance. Now because she drove without permission of the driver, the driver is in jeopardy.
So my question is .... Was it communicated that this was a "ride along" as in "watch and observe but dont drive"? Or did you already drive when the driver was with u?
Now I'm intrigued. She wasn't employed so no DAC. It was a CMV..so not on her insurance. Or can the owner go after her car insurance policy for payment?
Since no DAC and no police is it recorded anywhere?
CMV:
Commercial Motor Vehicle
A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:
- Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
- Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
- Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
- Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
- Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
No. She's saying this driver used to work for her company. Then he left to work for a different owner. That owner of the company agreed to "training" but never put her on the insurance. Now because she drove without permission of the driver, the driver is in jeopardy.
Sorry, missed that. This is a confusing thread.
Either way, it was still illegal if she wasn't on the insurance. Don't understand why the owner would have agreed to this.
Sorry, missed that. This is a confusing thread.
Either way, it was still illegal if she wasn't on the insurance. Don't understand why the owner would have agreed to this.
Very confusing indeed.
I don't know that it was "technically illegal" either - since it took place on private property. CDL license is required to operate on public roadways - not on private property - likewise with trucking liability.
This actually shouldn't show up AT ALL, ANYWHERE - but I wouldn't be too confident about this particular company allowing you to continue training.
Rick
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
OWI:
Operating While Intoxicated
The owner has been extremely nice telling me that its okay that accidents happen and that he will take care of it. The driver lost the account but has kept his job. Because their is no police report and no insurance was used it is not recorded on my dac , when I look up my own records it is as if it never existed. Both incredibility lucky and completely unfair. I will continue paying back the owner until the damage amount is recouped in full.
DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
Here's something else though...my family company had commercial insurance for 20 tow trucks. The drivers were not individually on the insurance. It went under an umbrella policy of our garage keepers for the auto body shop. $5000 per month for all trucks, cars, drivers (not listed individually on policy) and even liability for the shopkeepers (slip n fall, workman's comp, etc).
So does she even need to be on the insurance? Wouldn't he be left with only the deductible?
So does she even need to be on the insurance? Wouldn't he be left with only the deductible?
Most likely not - thought the business liability would cover anything that went on, on the premises.
Sounds like the guy didn't want to run it through any of his insurance, and just we OOP on it.
Why the poster is paying $10K OOP is questionable also - but if that's what she wants to do - so be it. Though I don't see a single mom having the extra change to do so.
Rick
The owner has been extremely nice telling me that its okay that accidents happen and that he will take care of it. The driver lost the account but has kept his job. Because their is no police report and no insurance was used it is not recorded on my dac , when I look up my own records it is as if it never existed. Both incredibility lucky and completely unfair. I will continue paying back the owner until the damage amount is recouped in full.
The Owner is Nice? You're kidding us, right? He just charged you 10k for your mistake...so he didn't need to make a claim on his insurance policy. Can you confirm the cost of the damage was definitely 10K or are you trusting the word of the "Nice Owner"?
DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
Nice is putting it mildly, I have been met with nothing but since it happened. Even the driver is killing me with don't worry about it, everything is going to be okay, its not that big a deal. In the great scheme of all things trucking no i guess it isn't a big deal because no lives were lost, no injuries occurred and its just cosmetic damage. While it hasn't deterred me from driving it has just scared the crap and granted me a view.
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So you were driving a commercial vehicle belonging to a company you are not employed by??
Did the company that actually owns the truck give you, a non-employer permission to ride in and operate THEIR equipment? If they did, you would have had official documentation from the owning company stating that and would have been insured.
I'm appalled honestly, and yes, you probably caused that driver to get fired, but then any driver better know that you NEVER let an unauthorized person in your truck, much less drive it.