How Shady Is The Industry Really? (Multiple Logbooks And Unplugging GPS Trackers?)

Bud,

Sorry, I guess that was over the top insulting.

Life will not be easy on you. You can't just insult people and everything you disagree with. Take a break, look back... analyze it and a knowledge what you're doing wrong, then fix it. Lots of hate in you boy. Take care of that.

I do want to read Brett's book. I went to do it once and got fed up with the way it was broken up into tiny segments so I couldn't just lay down and read it all at once.

Those "tiny segments" within a book are referred to as "pages", friend. Otherwise it would be in the form of a scroll, which is awkward to work with, and doesn't fold away as nicely. At the bottom of each tiny segment, or "page", you will see two buttons - one that takes you to the previous tiny segment, and one that takes you to the next tiny segment.

So you can indeed sit down and read the entire book all at once.

I just hope all the rose tinted glasses wearers aren't going to be enabling more than I can possibly put up with in terms of utter nonsense. It's frustrating that they turn against more discriminating fellow drivers instead of against the system, but that's simple people for you.

You're going to hang on to the hope that we're actually falling for that until the bitter end, aren't you? Pick a strategy and commit to it, I guess. Because I can assure you there's not one single member of this community that believes even for a moment that you're sitting home doing nothing right now because you have incredibly high standards and a discerning palate. Not one single person. Every time you attempt to sell that baloney to us we just laugh to ourselves and wonder how you could possibly think we would believe any of it. It really is like the little kid with cookie on their face, denying the obvious.

As intelligent and courageous and virtuous as you claim to be I'm not sure if I'm more surprised that you underestimated how difficult this endeavor would be, or that you're now afraid to take the leap after some failed attempts, or that you thought we wouldn't see through this whole smokescreen. Those were not good judgments, I'm afraid, and it's not much of a display of courage either.

There's a simple saying I have about people who act like Yosemite Sam, shooting in the air and hollering and kicking up dust all the time:

The larger the smokescreen, the larger the coverup.

It's my version of another saying:

Those who know do not say, and those who say do not know

You came in here from day one screaming and stomping your feet and talking down to us in order to kick up all this dust so we couldn't see through to who you really are and what's really going on inside your head. But we know, man. It's obvious.

We're the ones who are actually putting our lives on the line out there. We're the ones moving freight for an assortment of the most successful companies in the nation, creating profits for these carriers, putting paychecks in the bank, and food on the table for our families and a roof over their heads.

We don't want to hear what you think of us, or of anyone else, or of yourself for that matter. We've heard it all a thousand times and none of it has ever mattered. We want to know when you're going to join us. Are you going to put in some applications for school today or what? When do classes start?

The time for debate and analysis is looooong over with at this point. The procrastinating you're doing on sites like Glassdoor and with topics like breaking into elog computers has to end, and the real action has to begin, and now is the time. There are no excuses.

We've laid out any number of paths you can take into this industry and we have members that have successfully navigated them all. So the success you can have going down these paths isn't theoretical, it's been demonstrated. So now it's your turn. Pick a school and go for it. Sign your name on the dotted line, put your ass in that seat, and let's do this thing!

You do still believe you're capable of doing this, right? You haven't completely given up on the idea, have you?

I just hope all the rose tinted glasses wearers aren't going to be enabling more than I can possibly put up with in terms of utter nonsense. It's frustrating that they turn against more discriminating fellow drivers instead of against the system, but that's simple people for you.

Bud,

Sorry, I guess that was over the top insulting.

The reason you have people jumping all over you here - is likely, that I've seen very few posts where YOU DON'T INSULT SOMEONE - whether "over the top", or subtle.

Frankly, I'm (pleasantly) surprised at Bretts patience with you - most folks that troll as heavily as you have, would have been shown the door awhile ago. I guess he thinks there's still hope for you.

As far as "more discriminating fellow drivers" goes - you AREN'T A FELLOW DRIVER - because you AREN'T A DRIVER (and honestly, since I haven't gone out there OTR full time - neither am I yet - but I HAVE gone to school, have held a CDL-A for 8 years, and have done some driving at least). You're a TIRE KICKER. You make demands on an industry you know little about, and insult anyone who points out how unreasonable it is to do so. Insulting those that have started out doing nothing but trying to give you good information, and dispel some of the BS you've read elsewhere (biting the hands that feeds you).

My interest in truck driving is different than most. it appeals to me primarily because it's one of the few jobs that will afford me some personal space from having to interact with people constantly.

Kinda gotten the feeling you aren't a "people person", from your interactions with PEOPLE HERE. My current business is "customer service oriented", and one of my primary attractions to trucking is very similar. But, if your interactions HERE are any indication - the people you DO have to deal with in trucking (DM's, safety, yard guards, shippers, etc.) are going to put up with this attitude for about 5 minutes, before you are shown the door.

You are in no position to "make demands" of the industry at this point. Find the company that most closely meets what you are looking for. Expect to eat some crap - whether it's spoonfuls or shovelfuls, is entirely up to you. Based on your current attitude, I suspect it's going to be the shovel.

You need to GET YOUR MIND RIGHT there brother.

Rick

I just hope all the rose tinted glasses wearers aren't going to be enabling more than I can possibly put up with in terms of utter nonsense. It's frustrating that they turn against more discriminating fellow drivers instead of against the system, but that's simple people for you.

Bud,

Sorry, I guess that was over the top insulting.

The reason you have people jumping all over you here - is likely, that I've seen very few posts where YOU DON'T INSULT SOMEONE - whether "over the top", or subtle.

Frankly, I'm (pleasantly) surprised at Bretts patience with you - most folks that troll as heavily as you have, would have been shown the door awhile ago. I guess he thinks there's still hope for you.

As far as "more discriminating fellow drivers" goes - you AREN'T A FELLOW DRIVER - because you AREN'T A DRIVER (and honestly, since I haven't gone out there OTR full time - neither am I yet - but I HAVE gone to school, have held a CDL-A for 8 years, and have done some driving at least). You're a TIRE KICKER. You make demands on an industry you know little about, and insult anyone who points out how unreasonable it is to do so. Insulting those that have started out doing nothing but trying to give you good information, and dispel some of the BS you've read elsewhere (biting the hands that feeds you).

My interest in truck driving is different than most. it appeals to me primarily because it's one of the few jobs that will afford me some personal space from having to interact with people constantly.

Kinda gotten the feeling you aren't a "people person", from your interactions with PEOPLE HERE. My current business is "customer service oriented", and one of my primary attractions to trucking is very similar. But, if your interactions HERE are any indication - the people you DO have to deal with in trucking (DM's, safety, yard guards, shippers, etc.) are going to put up with this attitude for about 5 minutes, before you are shown the door.

You are in no position to "make demands" of the industry at this point. Find the company that most closely meets what you are looking for. Expect to eat some crap - whether it's spoonfuls or shovelfuls, is entirely up to you. Based on your current attitude, I suspect it's going to be the shovel.

You need to GET YOUR MIND RIGHT there brother.

Rick

Shovel, I'm thinking 48' frameless dump straight from the pasture.

"Expect to eat some crap - whether it's spoonfuls or shovelfuls, is entirely up to you. Based on your current attitude, I suspect it's going to be the shovel."

Best words of wisdom I've read in a while. Still laughing!

Ryan you remind of the guy who just can't let go and admit they're wrong. Just once. Like a guy who has an argument with his wife, sleeps on the couch for days, finally kisses and makes up, and then on the way out of the room says "but you're still a *****". Smh.

I think we would all be better off if you just give up on the notion of becoming a truck driver.

By December 18, 2017, a mandate will be in effect that paper logs will no longer be acceptable unless the ELD in use has become defective, in which case, having a set of paper logs is mandatory to be used and should always be in your vehicle just in case. The others are correct in thinking unplugging your device could be cause for termination. Carriers must have documentation saying you are where you say you are or they can be fined and have their status degraded. This can be determined when going through a DOT investigation, so any Carrier with a good sense will be keeping track of this. It's best to just follow the rules if you want a career in this field.

You may be able to unhook the gps the company installs but tractors now use gps to help control cruise control trying to disable that without anyone noticing.