My question is why did you move the illegal truck? I would have been sitting right there at that yard until fixed properly.
My question is why did you move the illegal truck? I would have been sitting right there at that yard until fixed properly.
Agreed...if a proper pre-trip inspection was done the said items would have been fixed before leaving the yard. The only person responsible for the operation of an illegal truck is the driver.
A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.
Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.
My question is why did you move the illegal truck? I would have been sitting right there at that yard until fixed properly.
Agreed...if a proper pre-trip inspection was done the said items would have been fixed before leaving the yard. The only person responsible for the operation of an illegal truck is the driver.
Can either of you just by looking, tell what is legal or not? Yes the driver is ultimately responsible, but there are just some things that are beyond the drivers control /knowledge, and they find out the hard way.
Granted, loose body parts and a cracked windshield are easily fixable before leaving. But instead of jumping down a driver's throat at the first chance, which happens far too often in these forums, try asking for some more detail.ime, why was the steer tire illegal? Why was the engine light on? Etc. Etc. Etc.
Stay safe
A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.
Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
Come on. YES i can see a 15 inch crack. He's at the yard and says he needs to drive away to fix it. Loose body parts that could fly off and cause an accident. An "illegal" tire. Regardless of why it was illegal, he dtates it to be true. With his 1.5 million miles and 20 years I'm sure he knows way more than me. Plus at a company he has spent two years with. So he knows and who needs to be alerted to get the job done.
I guess we should all stop PTI immediately because we don't know what is legal.
So my initial question still stands. WHY would an experienced driver of 20 years knowing choose to irresponsibly drive a truck HE says was illegal -- I didnt. He did. Why would he risk his career, his life, and the life of the public to KNOWINGLY drive an u safe truck?
Operating While Intoxicated
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
What I'm curious about Danielsahn is who jumped down his throat? Rainy asked a simple and reasonable question pertaining to the driver willing and knowingly leaving a yard with an illegal truck. All I did was agree and point out what the CDL manual states and that is the pre-trip inspection and operation of the vehicle is 100% the drivers responsibility. And yes, every item on the pre-trip can be visually identified as being faulty, that's why they call it a pre-trip inspection.
A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.
Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
Operating While Intoxicated
Rainy is a professional at being a know it all. She obviously didn't read my entire post. She just jumps in like she always does, on countless threads and proclaims to to be something she is not. I dismiss 80% of her rhetoric.
But you both missed one crucial point. You both assumed, he knew before he left, EVERYTHING that was wrong.
The windshield and loose body parts, I even mentioned, could have been addressed.
We don't know that he didn't say anything. My guess, he was driving, went to a scale house and got pulled in, or randomly pulled over for an inspection, whereby his tire was found to be illegal.
As you have probably guessed, I am not part of the Rainy fan club. But that is OK. We have a million different personalities here, and on the road, or where ever we currently work. She has given some great information on many a thread, yes.
I have only seen a few of your posts, and they all seem pretty well thought out. I lumped you in with her though, because the thought was echoed.
When I read a post that I want to reply to, I re read it, and look for things I may have missed, or something that, while not stated, was meant to be, or just overlooked. I look for the who, what, when, where, and why. If I see one missing, I ask, before I assume. At least, I try to. I don't respond often. Sometimes I will write a lengthy response, only to delete it, because it won't change anything, or shed any new light or thought.
Or I could be completely wrong, and the op was written at face value. I don't know, but I also don't pretend to know, or assume.
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
Rainy is a professional at being a know it all. She obviously didn't read my entire post. She just jumps in like she always does, on countless threads and proclaims to to be something she is not. I dismiss 80% of her rhetoric.
Ok so in the past two days you've criticized me for belittling people, you said Old School isn't genuine in the way he represents himself, and now Rainy is a know-it-all.
.....and yet your bio says "preparing for school" and no one asked your opinion about anything in the first place.
You're gonna make a great driver if you ever decide to pull the trigger. You're an amazing criticizer and you know it all without having an ounce of experience.
You're going off the rails here lately, man. Why don't you take a breather for a little while.
Rainy is a professional at being a know it all
Rainy is a professional. Period. She has done nothing but help people from day one, has had an amazing attitude, and has had great success in this industry. You should only hope you'll do as well or be as well liked around here. I wouldn't trade her for the world.
Rainy wrote:
My question is why did you move the illegal truck? I would have been sitting right there at that yard until fixed properly.
A valid question (DanielSahn) asked in a non-aggressive way. I would not have moved that truck and if a cursory PTI is performed, the problems mentioned are all detectable. I would have called road assist and gotten it fixed on the spot. My a** if DOT flags me into an inspection.
So Steven...were your forced to move the truck?
DanielSahn...way out of line bud...
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
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Would like to share some advice and warning for anybody who drives or thinking about coming to #KLLM. First I have been driving on and off since 96 with over 13 years and 1.5 million miles under my belt so take it for what it is worth. The best way to make money here is to be company on a dedicated fleet like I have for over 1.5 years. 80% lease here but at the end of the year I take home as much or a little more then the average lease driver (unless they make their money recruiting.) without all the headaches like paying for everything for the truck getting in trouble with IRS and fighting for miles. The warning is just because #KLLM puts a DOT inspection sticker on a truck does not mean it is leagal. Example on 2/24/17 George C. at the Jackson yard passed my truck with the engine light on a 15 inch crack in the windshield lose body parts and the left steer tire was illegal.. I had to get those fixed on the road and sent them a couple messages on our FB page but no response.. that was my first time in almost 2 years I got that done at a yard and my last if I can help it... My first time in 20 years I saw this happen at any company...Thx
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.