No Second Amendment For Truckers?

Here's another reason a company will not permit weapons of this sort: liability.

Hypothetical: you're at a lonely truck stop, a bad dude opens your door and accosts you. You produce your friends Mr Smith and Mr Wesson. Bad dude leaves, calls his mouthpiece about being threatened ("I was just asking for directions.")

So not just you, but your company and even the truck stop are soon served lawsuit summonses. So, no guns for you while you're on a company truck.

Errol, I don't disagree with anything you've said, and I'm really, really not trying to be critical, but I'm not sure this is the best hypothetical.

Consider this hypothetical: you're at a lonely truck stop, a bad dude opens your door and accosts you. You produce your friends empty right hand and empty left hand. Bad dude kicks your ass, takes your stuff, leaves you unconscious and bleeding, then leaves. You learn to lock your doors at all times and to avoid parking at lonely truck stops. Bad dude learns that truckers are easy targets and keeps doing it until someone points a gun at him or hits him over the head with a winch bar.

No one is going to care about getting sued if pointing a gun at someone potentially saved their life.

Better to just say, don't break company policies and local, state, or federal law unless you are prepared to live with the consequences. Figure out strategies that don't involve firearms or other prohibited weapons to increase your personal safety.

I'm a big fan of the Second Amendment, but yes, this discussion is an evergreen that just won't die.

P.S. Iowa is about to become a lot friendlier for gun owners. But you still shouldn't have one in your truck if your company prohibits it, or you ever go to places that prohibit weapons. Which again, in case you missed it, includes about 99% of the shippers and receivers you will ever go to.

Here's another reason a company will not permit weapons of this sort: liability.

Hypothetical: you're at a lonely truck stop, a bad dude opens your door and accosts you. You produce your friends Mr Smith and Mr Wesson. Bad dude leaves, calls his mouthpiece about being threatened ("I was just asking for directions.")

So not just you, but your company and even the truck stop are soon served lawsuit summonses. So, no guns for you while you're on a company truck.

Errol, I don't disagree with anything you've said, and I'm really, really not trying to be critical, but I'm not sure this is the best hypothetical.

Consider this hypothetical: you're at a lonely truck stop, a bad dude opens your door and accosts you. You produce your friends empty right hand and empty left hand. Bad dude kicks your ass, takes your stuff, leaves you unconscious and bleeding, then leaves. You learn to lock your doors at all times and to avoid parking at lonely truck stops. Bad dude learns that truckers are easy targets and keeps doing it until someone points a gun at him or hits him over the head with a winch bar.

No one is going to care about getting sued if pointing a gun at someone potentially saved their life.

Better to just say, don't break company policies and local, state, or federal law unless you are prepared to live with the consequences. Figure out strategies that don't involve firearms or other prohibited weapons to increase your personal safety.

I'm a big fan of the Second Amendment, but yes, this discussion is an evergreen that just won't die.

P.S. Iowa is about to become a lot friendlier for gun owners. But you still shouldn't have one in your truck if your company prohibits it, or you ever go to places that prohibit weapons. Which again, in case you missed it, includes about 99% of the shippers and receivers you will ever go to.

Not to mention, the bad guy already illegally entered your vehicle and accosted you. You're not going to just wave a weapon around and scare him off. You're going to do as you've trained to do hopefully and use that weapon to end the threat. No lawsuit from bad guy but you'll definitely be questioned and go on your merry way after law enforcement declare it as self defense.

I'm a big fan of 110 pound German Shepherds!

I was thinking a lazer pointer and a can of wasp blaster, pretty innocent stuff. At night no one can tell what the lazer is attached to and wasp baster shoots up to 25ft.

I'm a big fan of 110 pound German Shepherds!

I've always thought that a good dog is a better deterrent in a truck than any firearm. You don't even have to be awake -- they handle that part for you! And even a 15 pound dog who is defending its territory will not hesitate to attack someone who opens your truck door, and when you open the truck door, your face is right there for them to attack. I knew a little dog that would do just that if you made the mistake of opening the truck door when he was in there.

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This happened not long ago..The driver in this situation would have been better just calling the police..his life was not being threatened at the time.

If you do decide to carry and ignore company policy..use common sense.. its ultimately a decision between your life or your job..what's more important ?

Lot's of 2nd Amendment related changes coming from the Trump administration. They are in the process of trying to implement some kind of; If you deny my carry rights on the job you are liable for my safety. Reciprocal carry rights everywhere. And more to come. Trying to roll back years of creeping legislation that was designed to slowly take away our rights.

Lot's of 2nd Amendment related changes coming from the Trump administration. They are in the process of trying to implement some kind of; If you deny my carry rights on the job you are liable for my safety. Reciprocal carry rights everywhere. And more to come. Trying to roll back years of creeping legislation that was designed to slowly take away our rights.

Thats sounds like a great plan..about time!

Totally jazzed about the current admins defense of our 2A rights. Looking forward to the passage of the Hearing Protection Act. Been wanting some suppressors, but since I dumped all my class 3 stuff, I'm happier with BATFE not being able to come by for "random inspections" (same with FFL's).

The reciprocity stuff in the works could be a good thing, except the states still have 10th Amendment rights to regulate. Even if the current iterations of recip bills pass - there's still no guarantee of universal recognition.

I wouldn't have an issue with a potential "Federal Carry Permit", which would - if worded correctly - override supremacy concerns. I'd be behind something like this EVEN MORE - if it included some decent training - both in safety & marksmanship - and self defense LAW (which also varies widely from state to state).

This will STILL NOT CHANGE A COMPANIES RIGHT TO BAN FIREARMS ON THEIR PROPERTY (including their truck).

There's a FB group called "Truckers Lives Matter", that's trying to get some lobbying done for trucker reciprocity. This would still only apply to OWNER OPERATORS.

We can kick this can down the road for miles - and you still aren't going to see companies OK with armed drivers.

Rick