Short Haul

If I'm a local driver and need to make a 8 hour haul to Los Angeles to drop off a truck and fly back do i need to log the trip? Thank you.

I would say that you would indeed need to have a paper logbook as well as the last 8 days worth of logs.

Being a local driver constitues driving within a limited mileage radius from your home terminal. Any miles driven outside of the local radius must be logged. Sorry I can't recall the exact mileage radius to cite here.

The "local" or "short haul" exemption is a radius of 100 air miles (115 statute miles).

Yes, if you go outside that area you must start a log for that day (assuming you don't normally use a log). No, you do not have to have the previous 8 day's logs with you.

If the return flight is according to the carrier's schedule, it is considered on-duty (not driving) unless you have 8 consecutive hours off-duty afterwards, in which case it becomes off-duty. If your return is according to your own schedule it is off-duty.

DISCLAIMER: I wasn't able to find the guidance regarding the flight, so that may have been rescinded and all flights considered off-duty. Note, though, that all non-driving work (whether or not you're compensated) for a carrier is considered on-duty, so in the absence of anything else, I would follow the "8 hours off equals off-duty" rule.

Thanks for the info. I will be doing a log.

The "local" or "short haul" exemption is a radius of 100 air miles (115 statute miles).

Yes, if you go outside that area you must start a log for that day (assuming you don't normally use a log). No, you do not have to have the previous 8 day's logs with you.

If the return flight is according to the carrier's schedule, it is considered on-duty (not driving) unless you have 8 consecutive hours off-duty afterwards, in which case it becomes off-duty. If your return is according to your own schedule it is off-duty.

DISCLAIMER: I wasn't able to find the guidance regarding the flight, so that may have been rescinded and all flights considered off-duty. Note, though, that all non-driving work (whether or not you're compensated) for a carrier is considered on-duty, so in the absence of anything else, I would follow the "8 hours off equals off-duty" rule.

The "local" or "short haul" exemption is a radius of 100 air miles (115 statute miles).

Yes, if you go outside that area you must start a log for that day (assuming you don't normally use a log). No, you do not have to have the previous 8 day's logs with you.

If the return flight is according to the carrier's schedule, it is considered on-duty (not driving) unless you have 8 consecutive hours off-duty afterwards, in which case it becomes off-duty. If your return is according to your own schedule it is off-duty.

DISCLAIMER: I wasn't able to find the guidance regarding the flight, so that may have been rescinded and all flights considered off-duty. Note, though, that all non-driving work (whether or not you're compensated) for a carrier is considered on-duty, so in the absence of anything else, I would follow the "8 hours off equals off-duty" rule.