Rewriting History

I'm not really rewriting history because I am actually writing it for the first time. I have to go back and create logs from 5/26 to today since I was coded and hired at Swift. As I have mentioned in other posts, I am at home waiting for paperwork to get in so I can finish getting my license. In the mean time I have been working back at the pizza shop and I was just informed that I need to create logs for all these days (after being told twice I did not).

Thankfully I keep track of my hours at work so creating the logs is not a big deal, but it is going to take a chunk of time.

Hmmmm I read this twice and a bit confussed. First off if Swift told you a couple times to keep paper logs, then why did you not do it??? Anyway the days you worked for swift should be easy enough. My guess would be mostly on duty. The days you were at home would just be off duty. Unless I am missing something should be pretty easy. Take a lesson from this though. If your on paper on the road your required to be current up to last duty status change. DOT isn't very forgiving on that requirement.

Big T, I am surprised they are not having you fill out a time worked statement. Although you were off duty for Swift, the time worked at the pizza shop although not driving is considered work. They may not realize you are actually working while you wait for your birth certificate.

Hmmmm I read this twice and a bit confussed. First off if Swift told you a couple times to keep paper logs, then why did you not do it??? Anyway the days you worked for swift should be easy enough. My guess would be mostly on duty. The days you were at home would just be off duty. Unless I am missing something should be pretty easy. Take a lesson from this though. If your on paper on the road your required to be current up to last duty status change. DOT isn't very forgiving on that requirement.

I was told I did not need to keep the log for the hours. Thus I did not.

Big T, I am surprised they are not having you fill out a time worked statement. Although you were off duty for Swift, the time worked at the pizza shop although not driving is considered work. They may not realize you are actually working while you wait for your birth certificate.

G-Town that has been the frustration is I explained that to them and was told I did not need to do anything. I couldn't get my driver development coordinator to return calls or emails, but finally got in touch with someone in compliance and was told that I did need to be keeping track of the hours. I figured I was going to have to and that is why I have been keeping track of clock in and out times and total hours worked. I didn't know if I was going to have to put it on an actual log page or just a time worked statement, but I figured since I am still considered an employee of Swift I would have to have logs for everyday of employment just as if I had been driving the whole time.

Sorry if I am not making sense.

You are making sense.

Since there is greater than an eight day period since you last drove, not sure why they are asking you to fill out the paper logs. Doesn't make sense what they are asking. I can almost guarantee they will ask you to fill out a time worked statement once you finally make it to the mentoring phase. CYA...you are prepared regardless.

You are making sense.

Since there is greater than an eight day period since you last drove, not sure why they are asking you to fill out the paper logs. Doesn't make sense what they are asking. I can almost guarantee they will ask you to fill out a time worked statement once you finally make it to the mentoring phase. CYA...you are prepared regardless.

As I understand it, a company has to have a log for you every day you are employed. If you took a two week vacation you would still need to provide logs for those days. Usually the time worked statement is for hours worked in the eight days prior to employment with them. CYA is definitely the goal.

You are making sense.

Since there is greater than an eight day period since you last drove, not sure why they are asking you to fill out the paper logs. Doesn't make sense what they are asking. I can almost guarantee they will ask you to fill out a time worked statement once you finally make it to the mentoring phase. CYA...you are prepared regardless.

As I understand it, a company has to have a log for you every day you are employed. If you took a two week vacation you would still need to provide logs for those days. Usually the time worked statement is for hours worked in the eight days prior to employment with them. CYA is definitely the goal.

Big T, in addition to what you wrote, (above) the time worked statement is to also account for any time worked that is NOT for your carrier (in this case Swift) or if they are using you as a driver for the first time, which I think is the case for you because you haven't logged any revenue mileage as an employee (correct me if I am wrong on that).

Here is the language on form DOT 395.8 (J) (2): When using a driver for the first time or intermittently, motor carriers shall obtain from the driver a signed statement giving total on-duty during the preceding seven days and the time the driver was last relieved from duty prior to beginning work for the motor carrier (Swift)

Not suggesting to argue with them...not at all, kind of a gray area, perhaps. But again, don't be surprised if are required to fill one of these out the first time your report for duty.

Either way, I hope you don't have to wait too much longer. I'd be climbing the walls... Good Luck.

To know the exact answer to your dilemma, we need to know the exact day you were hired. Today is 6/14 and the other date mentioned is 5/26. The way you wrote it it isn't clear to me if you're saying you were hired on 5/26 or if 5/26 is the date THEY say you need to start a log.

You are making sense.

Since there is greater than an eight day period since you last drove, not sure why they are asking you to fill out the paper logs. Doesn't make sense what they are asking. I can almost guarantee they will ask you to fill out a time worked statement once you finally make it to the mentoring phase. CYA...you are prepared regardless.

As I understand it, a company has to have a log for you every day you are employed. If you took a two week vacation you would still need to provide logs for those days. Usually the time worked statement is for hours worked in the eight days prior to employment with them. CYA is definitely the goal.

Big T, in addition to what you wrote, (above) the time worked statement is to also account for any time worked that is NOT for your carrier (in this case Swift) or if they are using you as a driver for the first time, which I think is the case for you because you haven't logged any revenue mileage as an employee (correct me if I am wrong on that).

Here is the language on form DOT 395.8 (J) (2): When using a driver for the first time or intermittently, motor carriers shall obtain from the driver a signed statement giving total on-duty during the preceding seven days and the time the driver was last relieved from duty prior to beginning work for the motor carrier (Swift)

Not suggesting to argue with them...not at all, kind of a gray area, perhaps. But again, don't be surprised if are required to fill one of these out the first time your report for duty.

Either way, I hope you don't have to wait too much longer. I'd be climbing the walls... Good Luck.

That is correct I have not logged any revenue miles yet. I am not arguing with them. I have the documentation to show if they need it. The certificate came in today so I should be on the road next week. I'd leave right now, but leaving a three year old at home without adult supervision tends to be frowned upon.