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JD's Comment
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Sorry, I don't mean to repeat myself, but you all keep mentioning dedicated accounts. I know what those are, but I was advised differently by the recruiter.

I was advised it would be a Dedicated "REGION" and no particular account. Mostly Drop & Hook, all no touch freight. They advised I would just stick to the following states: MN, WI, KY, IN, OH, IA, IL, MI.

I need to know if that is a thing in Werner, or if that is their way of slanting the truth that it will be a dedicated account instead. If so, then I will take my 2nd option, OTR , all 48 states. I'm not ready for dedicated accounts, and I'm under the impression that it isn't, so I would like to find out what the truth is. If I can't get it then I'll have to go with a different company on my list, that isn't going to slant the truth.

I know what I want and a dedicated "account" is not it.

Don't believe everything a recruiter says. Dan is correct dedicated means delivering to different stores in a region you most likely will be doing dollar general or Home Depot accounts I highly suggest just doing OTR until you have the experience to handle a "regional" account. You can run 4 weeks out and then go home for 4 days straight to rest and spend time with family being home for a weekend is not what you think, you will sleep more than anything else and not have much time to spend with family or friends. Remember this isn't a job it's a life, I love it...

Except for chasing old school around the country and not getting to meet him. I was close enough to have thrown a snowball at him once but he took off on me.

JD

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Jason K.'s Comment
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Don't believe everything a recruiter says. Dan is correct dedicated means delivering to different stores in a region you most likely will be doing dollar general or Home Depot accounts I highly suggest just doing OTR until you have the experience to handle a "regional" account. You can run 4 weeks out and then go home for 4 days straight to rest and spend time with family being home for a weekend is not what you think, you will sleep more than anything else and not have much time to spend with family or friends. Remember this isn't a job it's a life, I love it...

That is why I wanted to clarify, thank you JD. I think I will take the $0.38 CPM but more miles OTR Option instead then. I don't have a family to come home to so I'm not worried about home time. Most of my home time will be spent in beautiful, and awesome places that I end up along the way.

With all that said, I actually may continue to look at the last 3 companies on my list because they may offer more CPM.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Turtle's Comment
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I don't know what other 3 companies are on your list, but keep in mind that more CPM may not actually equate to a better job or bigger paycheck.

Not that I'm necessarily endorsing Werner, but they are a huge outfit with lots of miles available. My dad drove a Werner truck OTR for something like 6 years, and he was hitting 3K miles a week easy. Add to that the perks that come along with a mega carrier, and you have a pretty nice package.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

G-Town's Comment
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Jason continues...

With all that said, I actually may continue to look at the last 3 companies on my list because they may offer more CPM.

Pennies...

Jason during a driver's first year of trucking; you can expect to earn about $40,000. That applies to every company on your list. Reason being, conquering the very steep learning curve limits earning potential, plus during the training the pay scale is much less.

Keep in mind as you progress the CPM will also increase and so will your mileage. Your base starting CPM at Werner will likely be a few cents higher after year one. Your income potential has less to-do with CPM and way more with available mileage and your ability as a driver to maximize your clocks. It will take a year or more to arrive at the point of truely "having your sh** together".

You have invested a lot of time researching your options and now second guessing your decision because of a few pennies. There comes a point in time when continuing to analyalze all of the "what-if" scenarios results in diminishing returns. You are at that point.

"Werner",...they are "calling" you. Go for it.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

JD's Comment
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Jason continues...

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With all that said, I actually may continue to look at the last 3 companies on my list because they may offer more CPM.

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Pennies...

Jason during a driver's first year of trucking; you can expect to earn about $40,000. That applies to every company on your list. Reason being, conquering the very steep learning curve limits earning potential, plus during the training the pay scale is much less.

Keep in mind as you progress the CPM will also increase and so will your mileage. Your base starting CPM at Werner will likely be a few cents higher after year one. Your income potential has less to-do with CPM and way more with available mileage and your ability as a driver to maximize your clocks. It will take a year or more to arrive at the point of truely "having your sh** together".

You have invested a lot of time researching your options and now second guessing your decision because of a few pennies. There comes a point in time when continuing to analyalze all of the "what-if" scenarios results in diminishing returns. You are at that point.

"Werner",...they are "calling" you. Go for it.

So true G-Town I average over 3000 miles a week my best be 4308 so far

JD

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

G-Town's Comment
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Jason continues...

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With all that said, I actually may continue to look at the last 3 companies on my list because they may offer more CPM.

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Pennies...

Jason during a driver's first year of trucking; you can expect to earn about $40,000. That applies to every company on your list. Reason being, conquering the very steep learning curve limits earning potential, plus during the training the pay scale is much less.

Keep in mind as you progress the CPM will also increase and so will your mileage. Your base starting CPM at Werner will likely be a few cents higher after year one. Your income potential has less to-do with CPM and way more with available mileage and your ability as a driver to maximize your clocks. It will take a year or more to arrive at the point of truely "having your sh** together".

You have invested a lot of time researching your options and now second guessing your decision because of a few pennies. There comes a point in time when continuing to analyalze all of the "what-if" scenarios results in diminishing returns. You are at that point.

"Werner",...they are "calling" you. Go for it.

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So true G-Town I average over 3000 miles a week my best be 4308 so far

JD

Jason, JD's reply is noteworthy. He is almost complete with his 1 year of experience with Werner. That's a terrific average enabling a very health income level for JD.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Jason K.'s Comment
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I understand both of you, and thank you.

It is not the CPM that is bothering me. I just don't appreciate being slanted so they can put an a** in a seat. That tells me they don't care about the driver. I was just mentioning that if I take the $0.38 CPM option, I could go to Titan, May, or PTL for the same if not more, and they didn't/haven't lied to me.

It's almost if your friend or family member lies to you, you lose respect for them when they do that. I understand they are recruiters, it's a mega-carrier, etc... but they have moved down my list.

I'm not saying I wouldn't consider them, but I think I'm going to see if another company can be straight with me and rule everyone else out before I plunge to Werner.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

Old School's Comment
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It is not the CPM that is bothering me. I just don't appreciate being slanted so they can put an a** in a seat. That tells me they don't care about the driver. I was just mentioning that if I take the $0.38 CPM option, I could go to Titan, May, or PTL for the same if not more, and they didn't/haven't lied to me.

Jason, you are really going to have to guard yourself against this type of thinking. You are the one who claims he shouldn't have quit this career before. Now you're already setting your mind into that dangerous mode of many of the drivers who constantly find themselves struggling at this business. You've already set it up in your mind that it's "Them against us." You're equating some random recruiter's remarks as though that were the company's attitude when you say that tells you "They don't care about the driver."

Listen to my personal experience. I started at .27 CPM at Western Express. Every online review I could find said something to the effect that "They don't care about their drivers." Here's what I learned: They loved the drivers who understood how to make things happen out here on the road. They had a lot of lousy drivers who wanted something for nothing, and those were the ones who were always screaming that mantra of "they don't care about the driver." They treated me like a king, but it was because they found something valuable in me that none of those other drivers demonstrated.

I'm not sure where you are getting this attitude from, but it is pretty obvious you've fallen headlong into the "research trap." For all your effort at doing research you have only hurt yourself. You need to give it up, shut it down, strap on your work boots and get serious about becoming a professional driver. The only person that you should concern yourself with caring about your success is you. To be honest with you, these companies hire a lot of quitters. They are quite accustomed to new drivers coming on board like a go-getter then quitting sometime before 90 days has even gone by. Most of those drivers quit because the company didn't care about them. There was nothing for them to care about yet - the driver was completely unproven.

You've said many times that you only need to make 1,200 a month. That's all fine and good, you could do that at a fast food joint. These trucking companies are looking for movers and shakers - those are the folks they care about - those are the drivers that are feeling all the love. This whole business is about being productive and moving freight - the guys and gals who get it done are the ones who reap the rewards, and one of those rewards is having the company really appreciate you and what you are doing for them.

Your best bet is to shut off your computer and put on your hard hat. Go out there and make it happen. We are all waiting to see if you've got what it takes. You quit once, now you're already trying to determine who it is who will "care" about you and you haven't even gotten off the couch yet! C'mon Dude, you are better and smarter than this. You are letting a bunch of losers establish your entire set of expectations and you are going to fail again if you stay on this trajectory.

You, of all people, have a lot on the line here, and it's looking like you are going down a rabbit hole that's going to disappoint you. Quit worrying about the company treating you right, and focus on you treating them right. That means being productive, efficient, and safe. If you can't figure out how to put all three of those together you will end up quitting again and going back to the same old mess you keep telling us you want to break free from.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PackRat's Comment
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I believe you are WAY overthinking this. Werner is a good company that's been around for decades and continues to grow. In turn, they must be doing it right, as they continue to need drivers to pilot all those rigs. Take the plunge!

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Jason K.'s Comment
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Oh, Oldschool, you da man, LOL.

I'm sorry if my statements were worded in a manner that may have formed your conclusion that my mindset is in the poor place you have described, and I appreciate you addressing it regardless. I don't believe it is a "Us against them" thing. It was more of a cringe moment, like a..."Really?"...moment, and just thought, maybe I should make sure I see what these other 2 companies have to offer before I put all my eggs in one basket. I completely understand what you are saying though.

I have done all that you mentioned. I haven't been sitting on the computer/couch, though, I promise that. I do have a lot of time to spend on a computer, but when I'm not on it I'm always super busy. I've been pre-hired by PTL, and Werner, just waiting to hear from Titan, and I just want to know my options.

There isn't much I can do until I decide on a company and schedule the date I'll start orientation. I must wait until the end of March to the Beginning of April before I start so that I can organize/orchestrate my departure. I have to get a storage unit for my things, sell some other things, ensure that what and where I'm leaving is handled.

Prior to, basically in this moment up to when I leave I also need to go back to my CDL school for a free 1-day refresher since I have been out of the industry for 1.5 years. Lastly, I'd like to go through my old papers and information from school and Schneider and refresh myself on all of that. Should I forgo this last part?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Pre-hire:

What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?

Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.

We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.

A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment

The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.

During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.

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