Some Confusion About The Use Of Sleeper Berth At Shippers/Receivers

I have read posts/comments about drivers who go off duty to "the sleeper birth" on their E-Logs while at a shipper/receiver during live loads. Please explain how you would most effectively use the 8/2 split, if getting loaded/unloaded will be completed within a couple (2-3) of hours. Thanks all.

As Chris said...I would worry about the other aspects of the HOS rules. I’ve only used the 2/8 split once and that was because my driverpc said I could..lol. Roehl doesn’t like their drivers to use the split sleeper.

Don...although HOS is important, you can have basic understanding of it and be okay, because it's not part of the CDL tests.

It will be covered during CFI school in a classroom environment, much more in depth once you are road training.

I wouldn't fret over this right now.

It's overwhelming at this point I am sure. Remember you will have classroom instruction and hands on training when you go with your trainer. The more steps you complete, the less overwhelming it all is. The best advice I can give is to just focus on what's in front of you on a day to day basis and at most a couple days in advance. You don't want to fail something because you were worried about tasks in the distant future which negated your ability to learn tasks for the immediate future. At the end it will all come together.

Bumping this...

Don we are all suggesting the same basic approach.

If you want to stay busy leading up to school focus on things that will help you prepare. As follows:

• Pre-Trip Inspection Study Guide
• Daniel's Pre-Trip Inspection
• Pre-Trip Inspection Checklist
• Pre-Trip Inspection Practice Questions

It's overwhelming at this point I am sure. Remember you will have classroom instruction and hands on training when you go with your trainer. The more steps you complete, the less overwhelming it all is. The best advice I can give is to just focus on what's in front of you on a day to day basis and at most a couple days in advance. You don't want to fail something because you were worried about tasks in the distant future which negated your ability to learn tasks for the immediate future. At the end it will all come together.

Don, I would also suggest that you not really worry about this as well. It will be discussed in school when you go and honestly the instructor here at Crowder thinks that the rule should just be a solid 10 hours and that is it since it is less complicated but the 8 and 2 rule has to be consecutive in order to comply with that rule. So meaning that you have to 8 hours sleeper berth and 2 hours in the passenger seat or not driving in order to satisfy the rule which is still 10 hours. So if you run solo you couldn't really satisfy that rule like that in my opinion since if you are gonna sleep or be off duty just simply do your 10 and be done with it. You are unlikely to be even able to do a complete 10 in a shipper/receiver anyways so I would not even worry about that and concentrate on the things that matter to you at this moment. When you are go on the road with your trainer you are going to learn how to do things when you need to do them to satisfy your HOS and be in compliance.

Guys and Ladies, thank you for your concerns, but I am not "worried" about this subject or other thoughts I have posted about. I am simply trying to learn things about the industry, so I come here to learn. If I am anxious about anything, it is to get started. Appreciate all the tips and suggestions.

Don, I would also suggest that you not really worry about this as well. It will be discussed in school when you go and honestly the instructor here at Crowder thinks that the rule should just be a solid 10 hours and that is it since it is less complicated but the 8 and 2 rule has to be consecutive in order to comply with that rule. So meaning that you have to 8 hours sleeper berth and 2 hours in the passenger seat or not driving in order to satisfy the rule which is still 10 hours. So if you run solo you couldn't really satisfy that rule like that in my opinion since if you are gonna sleep or be off duty just simply do your 10 and be done with it. You are unlikely to be even able to do a complete 10 in a shipper/receiver anyways so I would not even worry about that and concentrate on the things that matter to you at this moment. When you are go on the road with your trainer you are going to learn how to do things when you need to do them to satisfy your HOS and be in compliance.

Don, I would also suggest that you not really worry about this as well. It will be discussed in school when you go and honestly the instructor here at Crowder thinks that the rule should just be a solid 10 hours and that is it since it is less complicated but the 8 and 2 rule has to be consecutive in order to comply with that rule. So meaning that you have to 8 hours sleeper berth and 2 hours in the passenger seat or not driving in order to satisfy the rule which is still 10 hours. So if you run solo you couldn't really satisfy that rule like that in my opinion since if you are gonna sleep or be off duty just simply do your 10 and be done with it. You are unlikely to be even able to do a complete 10 in a shipper/receiver anyways so I would not even worry about that and concentrate on the things that matter to you at this moment. When you are go on the road with your trainer you are going to learn how to do things when you need to do them to satisfy your HOS and be in compliance.

That's actually not what the 8/2 split it is at all. What you're talking about, is the allowance for a team driver to be logged as off-duty while in the passenger seat, rather than being in sleeper berth. That's completely different from the 8/2 split.

Don replied to Chuck:

Guys and Ladies, thank you for your concerns, but I am not "worried" about this subject or other thoughts I have posted about. I am simply trying to learn things about the industry, so I come here to learn. If I am anxious about anything, it is to get started. Appreciate all the tips and suggestions.

Don, I would also suggest that you not really worry about this as well. It will be discussed in school when you go and honestly the instructor here at Crowder thinks that the rule should just be a solid 10 hours and that is it since it is less complicated but the 8 and 2 rule has to be consecutive in order to comply with that rule. So meaning that you have to 8 hours sleeper berth and 2 hours in the passenger seat or not driving in order to satisfy the rule which is still 10 hours. So if you run solo you couldn't really satisfy that rule like that in my opinion since if you are gonna sleep or be off duty just simply do your 10 and be done with it. You are unlikely to be even able to do a complete 10 in a shipper/receiver anyways so I would not even worry about that and concentrate on the things that matter to you at this moment. When you are go on the road with your trainer you are going to learn how to do things when you need to do them to satisfy your HOS and be in compliance.

Don, this isn't about worry or even concerns. You do what is best for "Don". However much of the replies are directed at focusing on topics will make a difference NOW, as you prepare for school. No idea if you have spent time on the pre-trip information and links I sent you here and in the other thread you have... It's 1/3rd of your CDL tests. Getting ahead-start on it, understanding inside and out will help you tremendously in training.

Chuck, Chris is right. I sleep at customers all the time either on an 8 or full 10.

Most drivers use the full 10. However there are times the 8/2 is very useful. and in bad weather i enjoy it cause i will drive for four or five hours then break then drive another five houra then break. winter driving exhausts me and i do better with 2 hour or 3 hour sleep. Another way i used the 8 sleeper in the beginning was to flip my clcok so i could drive nights. it allowed me to park at truck stops during the day when they were empty. i coukdnt back so i felt safer

Don, I would also suggest that you not really worry about this as well. It will be discussed in school when you go and honestly the instructor here at Crowder thinks that the rule should just be a solid 10 hours and that is it since it is less complicated but the 8 and 2 rule has to be consecutive in order to comply with that rule. So meaning that you have to 8 hours sleeper berth and 2 hours in the passenger seat or not driving in order to satisfy the rule which is still 10 hours. So if you run solo you couldn't really satisfy that rule like that in my opinion since if you are gonna sleep or be off duty just simply do your 10 and be done with it. You are unlikely to be even able to do a complete 10 in a shipper/receiver anyways so I would not even worry about that and concentrate on the things that matter to you at this moment. When you are go on the road with your trainer you are going to learn how to do things when you need to do them to satisfy your HOS and be in compliance.

That's actually not what the 8/2 split it is at all. What you're talking about, is the allowance for a team driver to be logged as off-duty while in the passenger seat, rather than being in sleeper berth. That's completely different from the 8/2 split.

I'm glad you said something about this.... I was like, ' wha? wait a minute. '

I was starting to get a bit confused. I like what Rainy D. said above. This best describes the idea of what I had in mind in regards to 8/2 split. I was wondering if I was needing to go back and relearn the log book. It was all starting to get a bit *complicated* and it's really not.