Some Confusion About The Use Of Sleeper Berth At Shippers/Receivers

P>I was actually sorta aiming that at Chuck and his misunderstanding of the 8/2 split versus the team rest provision... lol

There is NO misunderstanding in this rule. Instructors at school explained it and to each their own. The DOT rule also states that the rule needs to be used consecutively. 2 hours not in sleeper and 8 hours in sleeper. You can do it any order but they must run consecutively in order to fulfill the 10 hour rule.

Ok... all the multi-year 'vets' on here are wrong....you're right....

To quote one of my favourite movies...

"Son; your ego is writing checks that your body can't cash! "

😜

Good luck with your career. All the best.

Chuck "like a dog with a bone" wrote:

Updated: Thursday, March 9, 2017 from FMCSA website Sleeper Berth Provision Drivers using the sleeper berth provision must take at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth, plus a separate 2 consecutive hours either in the sleeper berth, off duty, or any combination of the two.

Reread what Rainy wrote here:

Chuck, Chris is right. I sleep at customers all the time either on an 8 or full 10.

Most drivers use the full 10. However there are times the 8/2 is very useful. and in bad weather i enjoy it cause i will drive for four or five hours then break then drive another five houra then break. winter driving exhausts me and i do better with 2 hour or 3 hour sleep. Another way i used the 8 sleeper in the beginning was to flip my clcok so i could drive nights. it allowed me to park at truck stops during the day when they were empty. i coukdnt back so i felt safer

The word "consecutive" applies to the 2 breaks individually, not together. If you log "sleeper", you must remain there for 8 consecutive hours before driving. Otherwise it's as if logging off-duty, it will not reset the 14 hour clock. To complete the cycle you then must log sleeper for at least 2 consecutive hours. It's 2 breaks, not one.

Chuck, the drivers responding to you; Chris, Rainy, and Turtle work with this rule all the time. They understand it and leverage it frequently. How could all three of them be wrong?

I have nothing else to comment on this and I personally do not care anymore about this topic. I will be doing 10 hours either way so this 8/2 means nothing but more BS to me. I not spreading any wrong information on this site when it comes right from the FMCSA site.

Chuck, please ask you instructior at your CDL school to show me his QC graph to explain this because i can post mine to prove what i am saying.

you/he is misinterpreting the consecutive part...the two breaks of 8 and 2 are not consecutive with each other...they are seperate from each other but the 8 sleeper and 2 hour off duty/sleeper must be consecutive within those two breaks.

thats it...my next article is about the 8/2 with oics from my QC to back it up.

Chuck, there's no reason to get offended. It's something that you are not understanding right now, and that's perfectly fine. What's not good is when you make repeated attempts to school others who do understand it. Your tag line indicates you're in school. Your talking to professional drivers who use this rule legally and properly everyday. It might help you to take a breath, realize it's possible you're misunderstanding the semantics and maybe you'll learn about a very valuable tool that can help you be more productive on the road.

Chuck, please ask you instructior at your CDL school to show me his QC graph to explain this because i can post mine to prove what i am saying.

you/he is misinterpreting the consecutive part...the two breaks of 8 and 2 are not consecutive with each other...they are seperate from each other but the 8 sleeper and 2 hour off duty/sleeper must be consecutive within those two breaks.

thats it...my next article is about the 8/2 with oics from my QC to back it up.

That's a great idea Rainy.

So meaning that you have to 8 hours sleeper berth and 2 hours in the passenger seat or not driving in order to satisfy the rule which is still 10 hours. So if you run solo you couldn't really satisfy that rule like that in my opinion since if you are gonna sleep or be off duty just simply do your 10 and be done with it.

I was trying to explain to you that what you were being told by your instructor at Crowder, is that when you're team driving with your mentor, you're only allowed to be in the passenger seat, off-duty, for a maximum of 2 hours. Now I don't know if you interpreted this as the 8/2 split, or if your instructor incorrectly stated this as the 8/2 split but that is a completely separate scenario that is in no way connected to the 8/2 split sleeper berth provision. It's a simple case of confusion that I was trying to clear up for your benefit, as well as the other new drivers who read through this topic.

So meaning that you have to 8 hours sleeper berth and 2 hours in the passenger seat or not driving in order to satisfy the rule which is still 10 hours. So if you run solo you couldn't really satisfy that rule like that in my opinion since if you are gonna sleep or be off duty just simply do your 10 and be done with it.

I believe Chris hit the nail on the head...with this here:

I was trying to explain to you that what you were being told by your instructor at Crowder, is that when you're team driving with your mentor, you're only allowed to be in the passenger seat, off-duty, for a maximum of 2 hours. Now I don't know if you interpreted this as the 8/2 split, or if your instructor incorrectly stated this as the 8/2 split but that is a completely separate scenario that is in no way connected to the 8/2 split sleeper berth provision. It's a simple case of confusion that I was trying to clear up for your benefit, as well as the other new drivers who read through this topic.

Chuck you might want to rethink your reply... A reply to many people who actually care that your understanding is accurate.