Question About Dividers / Bulkheads In Tanks...

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In The Know's Comment
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Hey, I was wondering why these questions are somewhat the same and yet have different answers? Can anyone make sense of this? I will be taking the CDL test tomorrow morning. I have found many issues in the testing online and in written question and answering booklets gotten from a trucking school.

Dividers inside tankers that have openings at the top and bottom are called this? baffles

Dividers inside tanks that have openings at the top and bottom are called? bulkheads

I have also found a discrepancy with the years of re-training for Hazmat and some say 3 years, some 4 years and I just ran into one test online that says 2 years. Holy crap! I'm in AZ and found it in the manual to say 3 years is the time-frame to be re-tested.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Baffle:

A partition or separator within a liquid tank, used to inhibit the flow of fluids within the tank. During acceleration, turning, and braking, a large liquid-filled tank may produce unexpected forces on the vehicle due to the inertia of liquids.

Bulkhead:

A strong wall-like structure placed at the front of a flatbed trailer (or on the rear of the tractor) used to protect the driver against shifting cargo during a front-end collision. May also refer to any separator within a dry or liquid trailer (also called a baffle for liquid trailers) used to partition the load.

In The Know's Comment
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I called the Phoenix CDL School to ask about this tanker question and the guy could not answer it. He tells me he only trains for the road test. But I then state that because he has to have his CDL to train and in the trucking industry that he would know the answer. He just kept trying to slide out of it! Wow...

I also called DOT to ask the hazmat question and they transferred me several times and the guy I finally got to did not know the answer. He did take the time to do a little research, though he came back with the incorrect answer. He told me for AZ that I need to re-train every 3 years and retest every 4 years. WHAT?? Unbelievable! Now I ask... am I getting into the wrong business?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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Now I ask... am I getting into the wrong business?

I don't know, but whatever business you decide to go into you're definitely going in with the wrong attitude. Ron, no one likes the new guy who thinks they're the smartest guy in the room and can't say two sentences without criticizing someone. You've had 3 comments so far and each of them was loaded with criticisms. If you have a question - feel free to ask. If you have a smartass opinion about how stupid everyone is, keep it to yourself.

You want to know what is going to make everyone say "Unbelievable!" and "Wow!" - your ability to drive a big rig that first year when you go out there like a drunk clown tripping all over yourself. So get a grip.

In The Know's Comment
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I don't see how my questions are loaded with critisisms. I just am curious about things at this point and when calling those people... I really just wanted to know the real answers. How is that critisizing?

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Old School's Comment
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Well, let's count the ways...

You've been critical of any and every online testing you've come across.

You've been critical of the folks at the D.O.T.

You've been critical of the Phoenix CDL school.

You jumped right into our forum like you couldn't believe people couldn't give you the answers you were looking for.

You started right off with a condescending attitude toward those whom you were seeking help from.

Brother, if you can't figure out why you're already having trouble, I'm thinking that you may be right about asking yourself...

am I getting into the wrong business?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Cwc's Comment
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Either way a bulkhead is the same in a tank as it is aboard a Navy ship... A wall.

Baffles are the same in a tanker as they are in the gas tank of your car. Nothing more than a device to slow the sloshing of liquid.

And a smooth bore or food grade tanker has none of the above. They tend to be a little tricky depending what you have loaded on them.

Baffle:

A partition or separator within a liquid tank, used to inhibit the flow of fluids within the tank. During acceleration, turning, and braking, a large liquid-filled tank may produce unexpected forces on the vehicle due to the inertia of liquids.

Bulkhead:

A strong wall-like structure placed at the front of a flatbed trailer (or on the rear of the tractor) used to protect the driver against shifting cargo during a front-end collision. May also refer to any separator within a dry or liquid trailer (also called a baffle for liquid trailers) used to partition the load.

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