Got My First Ticket. Grrrr.
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Carrying cash now. Its very upsetting knowing $8 to scale turned into this, but like you guys said im moving on.
OWI:
Operating While Intoxicated
Just a heads up, we have a member here who got points for not prooerly logging his fuel time. Rainy, was he using paper logs?
The P&G in Lima, OH signs say cash only scale but everyone still uses it. Last time it wasn't working though so I went a few miles north to Beaver Dam, OH for a CAT scale. Our company policy is to scale every load. I scale anything over 20k lbs.
CAT Scale:
A network of over 1,500 certified truck scales across the U.S. and Canada found primarily at truck stops. CAT scales are by far the most trustworthy scales out there.
In fact, CAT Scale offers an unconditional Guarantee:
“If you get an overweight fine from the state after our scale showed your legal, we will immediately check our scale. If our scale is wrong, we will reimburse you for the fine. If our scale is correct, a representative of CAT Scale Company will appear in court with the driver as a witness”
Just a heads up, we have a member here who got points for not properly logging his fuel time. Rainy, was he using paper logs?
No. he was on elogs , but fueled and went off duty. The fuel receipts were on the dash and the officer saw it...boom...falsifying logs for not putting himself On Duty during fueling. He was put out of service for 10 hours, given a ticket and CSA points.
Elog:
Electronic Onboard Recorder
Electronic Logbook
A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.
Elogs:
Electronic Onboard Recorder
Electronic Logbook
A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
The bigger problem occurs if the officer decides to do an inspection, and then listed the overweight violation as the impetus for the inspection.
That will then stick with you and be visible to potential employers, etc. for three years. It used to add CSA points....I am not certain whether that remains the case or not, but in any case, we just need to make sure that we're at legal weight. Zero traffic violations, zero inspection issues, zero incidents, and zero accidents along with a top notch performance record are what we need to succeed in this occupation.
No MVR points either. I should have clarified that. At least on mine, it was only a fine. Oh look, poetry lol.
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
MVR:
Motor Vehicle Record
An MVR is a report of your driving history, as reported from your state Department of Motor Vehicles. Information on this report may include Drivers License information, point history, violations, convictions, and license status on your driving record.
Just a heads up, we have a member here who got points for not prooerly logging his fuel time. Rainy, was he using paper logs?
The person Rainy is talking about is me. I got put OOS during a roadside level 2 for not logging my fuel stops and fueling on my 30. I did the math and I think that violation was 27 points on my csa record.
There's really no reason to get an overweight ticket. 2,000 over is alot and I would have ran back to the shipper or messed with the tandems. I think I ran 300 over once and felt nervous about getting caught at a scale.
Shipper:
The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.
Tandems:
Tandem Axles
A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".
Tandem:
Tandem Axles
A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
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Those damn P+G loads and those damn MO scale houses. I was in a similar situation back in October. Picked up P+G in Kansas City, KS (pain to find), heavy as hell, felt fine pulling from a complete stop. Just like you, I was in a hurry; I only had about 1h to spare to get to our terminal in Edwardsville IL, considering St Louis rush hour, so I said, "it's Saturday, scales will be closed." NOPE!!! Got pulled in about 5m or so after I passed an area with a TA and Petro, both had scales. 1,500lbs heavy on tandems , about $150 ticket, officer claimed I wouldn't get any points.
Lesson learned: 5-10m to scale your load is WAAAAAAAAAAY worth it if you're heavy. And as G-Town put it, a helluva lot cheaper than an overweight ticket.
(Still made it on time without running out of hours (wasn't even worth it!!!!))
Terminal:
A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.
Tandems:
Tandem Axles
A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".
Tandem:
Tandem Axles
A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.