CR ENGLAND 16cpm

Each driver is doing 3000/week, 6000 total? That's half of $960 or $480.

That's $960/2 or $480 a week for 70 hours of driving a week. That's $6.85 an hour.

Phillip, can you live on $960 dollars per week?

If you and your co-driver are getting it done like you should, that's what your gross pay would be. If a team runs 6,000 miles a week at that rate, each driver makes $960 dollars.

Now the question becomes, "Can I get out there and be that productive?" You're asking all the wrong questions.

You may need to check your math......

6000 miles x 0.16c per mile = $960.00 not $480.00.

Just sayin' .....

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No.... The truck gets paid 32c per mile (Your figures from your original post)....

6000 miles @ .32 = $1920.

$1920 divided by 2 = $960 per driver.

And don't forget the added pay for stops, layover, detention, etc., etc.

I'm kind of thinking you have the wrong attitude here. Sure we all want to make a lot of money. But what's going to happen those first few months when so many things go wrong. You didn't understand the instructions that either your dispatcher , the security guard, or the shipping clerk gave you. It's your first time in a strange facility and you screw everything up. You can't get backed up correctly, you put it in the dock unhook your trailer and you didn't understand the instructions you were supposed to open the doors because at this facility they don't open them from the inside? Trust me you don't think about your cpm , or you're sitting for hours waiting to get loaded or unloaded not making a dime. You might get detention pay or breakdown pay but that isn't s***. The way you make money is to turn miles. You might want to think about doing this as a career. It really isn't exactly what many think it will be that's why there's such a high turnover.

You can be ****ed off all you want. You gave up. and you arent calculating the team pay correctly and came here to moan instead of possibly thinking you were wrong.

EACH driver gets paid for 6000 miles, not 3000 miles.

So .32 x 6000 miles = $1920 then divide by 2 drivers = $960 each

OR

.16 x 6000 miles = $960 each driver

so can you live on $1000 per week?

Thank you for all your feed back. I totally agree the bad attitude has got to go. I was so excited and positive at Trainco. I'd struggle but keep on trying. I think I was afraid I would fail the test and end up paying for the school. There was almost no chance that, on the very last day in the last few hours that I was going to get parallel parking and alley docking down well enough to pass. I hadn't even learned alley docking at the point. Prime is not .12cpm or $700.

Is that training pay??? Primes in team training is 14cpm or $700 whichever is greater.

and to answer your question... many people in the south can live on that, or certain areas of the country. they have a national fleet who does. especially if you live on the truck. Many CRE drivers are second chancers with background issues who were given a chance other companies wouldn't offer. They appreciate the investment, despite the fact that they are an insurance high risk.

However, i seriously think you need to do some deep thinking. Get rid of all the negativity. the " i cant drive a manual, i need an automatic, i cant back.. i had to leave the one school and now im going to bash a company that others enjoy after one email" crappy attitude.

if a company is not for you, then move on to researching another. But please, the bad attitude has to go.

Back to the original question...

Are you seriously telling Rainy, a trainer at Prime, that she is wrong about what the students on her truck get paid?

Phillip, the fear is understandable and normal. so normal i wrote an article about it. you are not the first one who couldnt back or had clutch issues. No one can back. Splitter came on my truck with knee problems too. And for a week told me about how hard having 60 pounds of torque pushing back on you is. Yeah, 3 years i been doing it so i know. But sometimes people put too much pressure on themselves to be perfect. Is that the problem? they do not expect perfection on the test.

Did they explain the backing point system to you? Heck, you can hit like 4 or 5 cones and pass at 2 pts per cone and a couple extra pull ups. Dont be afraid to use those points.

Failed the CDL Exam? Dont Sweat It

One of the biggest parts of trucking is to get past the fears and negativity and get things done. I was terrified too. Failed the backing once and the road test twice. My determination to get help and to calm myself to figure it out pushed me through. Now that is a distant memory. But once solo, things go terribly wrong out here. You cant just walk away and choose another customer or another company cause you cant back into a door or truck stop spot.

You said the Schneider truck was sweet, so.what happened? There was no way to ask for additional time or ask another instructor to explain? Did they really only let you test once with no extra practice? is there no way to go back and complete the program?

There are plenty of great companies out there who will train you, The problem is that if you bounce from school to school, companies see you as a quitter plus it takes you so much longer to get solo. An example, Splitter came to Prime March 5thish. He got on my truck March 30th for team training and upgraded to solo May 28th. Another forum member went to Prime orientation at the same time, lied about a drug test and got sent home. Then that driver went to not one but TWO other companies and just finally upgraded to solo this week. She lost 2 whole months of solo pay plus ruined her reputation for future employers. Companies look back at your CDL employment for 10 years, so going from company to company can impact your future in a negative way.

As for Prime it is FOURTEEN cpm or $700 gross per week whichever is greater plus fuel bonuses, they might even get detention now too, im not sure about that. so it is quite possible to make over $1000 per week in team training depending on how hard you can run and if the truck needs repairs or the trainer takes home time.

.14 cpm x 5000 miles = $700

.14 x 6000 miles = $840

Honestly, i dont like to run trainees that hard because it is already exhausting and stressful. plus I like living, tired trainees equal death, so i slow us down after a bad couple days i might take a couple days off in the terminal. So on my truck, $700 plus bonuses is more normal than Turtles trainer who ran them harder,, so turtle made more.

But again.. back to the CRE thing. Do you now understand how the team pay works? And truthfully, CRE is one of the lower paying companies. So you will find higher pay elsewhere. There are reasons for that though. CRE will accept higher risk drivers others wont. Those with background issues, includng those who bounce from company to company. They are seen as a second chance employer. many appreciate their offer of a second chance. For that reason, i took it offensive the way you started the thread. especially since your understanding of team pay was incorrect.

and Yes, im being hard on you. That is what trainers do. We are tough so when you go it alone you can get through it. Splitter stopped talking to me the last day. Once solo he posted on here finally understanding that im tough for a reason. and we still talk almost every day.

check out his thread

Descending in an Automatic

good luck

However, if you come to Prime with a CDL , you get $600 gross for the first 6 weeks then $700. Plus bonuses and tuition reimbursement.

You also need to team train for 40k miles if you come in with a CDL rather than the 30k miles if you do their PSD CDL program.