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The more I try with these megas the more I realize all the crap you read about them is true.. no wonder the turn over rate is so high, they treat everyone like crap.

Josh, you copped an attitude with some recruiters, so they knew they weren't going to hire you and decided to give you some attitude back. So now your conclusion from that is that all of the largest, most successful companies in this nation treat everyone like crap? Why, because a few losers on YouTube said so and now you've confirmed it?

Man, have a tough road ahead of you I'm afraid. The entire reason we exist is to help people learn how to be successful in this industry and your attitude isn't going to let that happen. I can see you're the type that gets snippy the moment someone says something that you feel may be less respectful than you deserve. You hold yourself in high regard and everyone else better too. A ton of people come into this industry with that attitude because they hear there's a demand for drivers so they think they're in a position of strength. You've already found out that no one is going to kiss your feet and roll out the red carpet for you. When they see that kind of arrogance in someone who hasn't even set foot in a classroom yet they quickly show them the door, as you've experienced already. And yes, that's how you're coming across to them and that's why they're toying with you.

You have to turn this around and realize that you're the one that has to prove yourself in this industry. You're not in demand yet. You don't have any skills, you don't know anything about the industry, and you can't make any money for anyone yet. You're still a liability. You say you're willing to prove yourself, but only if people talk to you the way you think they should. You have every right to set the minimum requirements for how everyone is supposed to treat you, but as you've seen, so do the people who are doing the hiring.

Do you want to wind up sitting home broke, without a job, just another crybaby on Youtube complaining that they've been wronged by the trucking world, or do you want to reach the pinnacle of this career? Because it can very easily go either way, and the future is in your hands.

Look at these:

What It Takes To Be A Top Tier Driver

Episode 19: You're Getting Career Advice From The Wrong People

It always amazes me that people are willing to take career advice from crybabies and complainers on YouTube. Josh, have you ever read the book, "How To Complain And Blame Your Way To The Top?" Probably not, because it's never been written, and never will be.

The more I try with these megas the more I realize all the crap you read about them is true.. no wonder the turn over rate is so high, they treat everyone like crap.

Josh, you copped an attitude with some recruiters, so they knew they weren't going to hire you and decided to give you some attitude back. So now your conclusion from that is that all of the largest, most successful companies in this nation treat everyone like crap? Why, because a few losers on YouTube said so and now you've confirmed it?

Man, have a tough road ahead of you I'm afraid. The entire reason we exist is to help people learn how to be successful in this industry and your attitude isn't going to let that happen. I can see you're the type that gets snippy the moment someone says something that you feel may be less respectful than you deserve. You hold yourself in high regard and everyone else better too. A ton of people come into this industry with that attitude because they hear there's a demand for drivers so they think they're in a position of strength. You've already found out that no one is going to kiss your feet and roll out the red carpet for you. When they see that kind of arrogance in someone who hasn't even set foot in a classroom yet they quickly show them the door, as you've experienced already. And yes, that's how you're coming across to them and that's why they're toying with you.

You have to turn this around and realize that you're the one that has to prove yourself in this industry. You're not in demand yet. You don't have any skills, you don't know anything about the industry, and you can't make any money for anyone yet. You're still a liability. You say you're willing to prove yourself, but only if people talk to you the way you think they should. You have every right to set the minimum requirements for how everyone is supposed to treat you, but as you've seen, so do the people who are doing the hiring.

Do you want to wind up sitting home broke, without a job, just another crybaby on Youtube complaining that they've been wronged by the trucking world, or do you want to reach the pinnacle of this career? Because it can very easily go either way, and the future is in your hands.

Look at these:

What It Takes To Be A Top Tier Driver

Episode 19: You're Getting Career Advice From The Wrong People

It always amazes me that people are willing to take career advice from crybabies and complainers on YouTube. Josh, have you ever read the book, "How To Complain And Blame Your Way To The Top?" Probably not, because it's never been written, and never will be.

You couldn't be more wrong! Please tell me where I copped an attitude with a recruiter? So did you miss the part where I said that you would be appalled at how the recruiter talked to me? I'm just supposed to let people disrespect me? Nope not letting that happen. Then you accuse me of getting snippy and being arrogant that's so far from the truth. Did reading comprehension fail you? Didn't you see the part where I said I realize I'm a no body in the industry and I will be that way until I prove myself? Apparently you forgot the part where I said I wouldn't have started this industry unless I couldn't hack it. You know nothing about me. You need to get off your high horse, just because you run a website and a wheel holder for 15 years doesn't mean you know it all either. But yeah all I do is complain my way to the top, at least that's the way you try and make me sound. Guess that's how I made E5 in the minimum time, then E6 the same way, guess I passed airborne school and got my ranger tab that way too? Guess I had an awesome military career for being a whiney little *****, that's what your basically saying I am isn't it? Not once did I never cop and attitude with a recruiter. Not once did I feel entitle to a job like you claim. And now I'm definitely not taking advice from some wheel holder who couldn't even do 20 years in a career field!! I have more intestinal fortitude In my left nostril than you have in your whole body. You are a joke. But hey go ahead and promote your website and articles because you know everything after a big whopping 15 years driving lol.

The more I try with these megas the more I realize all the crap you read about them is true.. no wonder the turn over rate is so high, they treat everyone like crap.

Josh, you copped an attitude with some recruiters, so they knew they weren't going to hire you and decided to give you some attitude back. So now your conclusion from that is that all of the largest, most successful companies in this nation treat everyone like crap? Why, because a few losers on YouTube said so and now you've confirmed it?

Man, have a tough road ahead of you I'm afraid. The entire reason we exist is to help people learn how to be successful in this industry and your attitude isn't going to let that happen. I can see you're the type that gets snippy the moment someone says something that you feel may be less respectful than you deserve. You hold yourself in high regard and everyone else better too. A ton of people come into this industry with that attitude because they hear there's a demand for drivers so they think they're in a position of strength. You've already found out that no one is going to kiss your feet and roll out the red carpet for you. When they see that kind of arrogance in someone who hasn't even set foot in a classroom yet they quickly show them the door, as you've experienced already. And yes, that's how you're coming across to them and that's why they're toying with you.

You have to turn this around and realize that you're the one that has to prove yourself in this industry. You're not in demand yet. You don't have any skills, you don't know anything about the industry, and you can't make any money for anyone yet. You're still a liability. You say you're willing to prove yourself, but only if people talk to you the way you think they should. You have every right to set the minimum requirements for how everyone is supposed to treat you, but as you've seen, so do the people who are doing the hiring.

Do you want to wind up sitting home broke, without a job, just another crybaby on Youtube complaining that they've been wronged by the trucking world, or do you want to reach the pinnacle of this career? Because it can very easily go either way, and the future is in your hands.

Look at these:

What It Takes To Be A Top Tier Driver

Episode 19: You're Getting Career Advice From The Wrong People

It always amazes me that people are willing to take career advice from crybabies and complainers on YouTube. Josh, have you ever read the book, "How To Complain And Blame Your Way To The Top?" Probably not, because it's never been written, and never will be.

Might as well delete this thread, delete my account and block me, definitely won't be back to take advice from you, someone who couldn't even do 20 years behind the wheel and now wants everyone to think they know it all after 15 years.. you are a joke.

"It always amazes me that people are willing to take career advice from crybabies and complainers on YouTube. Josh, have you ever read the book, "How To Complain And Blame Your Way To The Top?" Probably not, because it's never been written, and never will be"

It amazes me people take career advice from a has been who hasn't been in the industry for over 12 years. 12 years is a long time to be sitting on the sidelines and getting your info from a swift day cab driver..

Josh, you have proven yourself to be not nearly as smart as you think you are. The crux of your… what I hope to be closing arguments… because you mentioned it in each of your last three posts, is that Brett’s advice is no longer relevant because he hasn’t been driving for some time. You’re an Army veteran, right? You said you were. In your chain of command, when do you suppose was the last time the major, lieutenant colonel, colonel, and/or general fired and then cleaned their rifle? Or stabbed a dummy with a fixed bayonet? Or completed the obstacle or confidence course? Or participated in a PT test? I find it remarkable that your promotions were fast tracked when you clearly showed none of your superiors an ounce of respect, seeing as how you expect those giving advice, and in the military, orders, to practice what they preach. That chip on your shoulder is pretty big; try removing it, and allow yourself to see that everything that has been written here has been an effort to help you, not put you down. You may consider staying in the military; structure, orders, following protocol, all seem well suited for you. In trucking, you’ll encounter a wide variety of personalities, and a very fluid environment that requires much adaptation. Good luck with whatever choices you make.

Josh, you have proven yourself to be not nearly as smart as you think you are. The crux of your… what I hope to be closing arguments… because you mentioned it in each of your last three posts, is that Brett’s advice is no longer relevant because he hasn’t been driving for some time. You’re an Army veteran, right? You said you were. In your chain of command, when do you suppose was the last time the major, lieutenant colonel, colonel, and/or general fired and then cleaned their rifle? Or stabbed a dummy with a fixed bayonet? Or completed the obstacle or confidence course? Or participated in a PT test? I find it remarkable that your promotions were fast tracked when you clearly showed none of your superiors an ounce of respect, seeing as how you expect those giving advice, and in the military, orders, to practice what they preach. That chip on your shoulder is pretty big; try removing it, and allow yourself to see that everything that has been written here has been an effort to help you, not put you down. You may consider staying in the military; structure, orders, following protocol, all seem well suited for you. In trucking, you’ll encounter a wide variety of personalities, and a very fluid environment that requires much adaptation. Good luck with whatever choices you make.

I didn't ask for your opinion, get off his ****.

Josh, you have proven yourself to be not nearly as smart as you think you are. The crux of your… what I hope to be closing arguments… because you mentioned it in each of your last three posts, is that Brett’s advice is no longer relevant because he hasn’t been driving for some time. You’re an Army veteran, right? You said you were. In your chain of command, when do you suppose was the last time the major, lieutenant colonel, colonel, and/or general fired and then cleaned their rifle? Or stabbed a dummy with a fixed bayonet? Or completed the obstacle or confidence course? Or participated in a PT test? I find it remarkable that your promotions were fast tracked when you clearly showed none of your superiors an ounce of respect, seeing as how you expect those giving advice, and in the military, orders, to practice what they preach. That chip on your shoulder is pretty big; try removing it, and allow yourself to see that everything that has been written here has been an effort to help you, not put you down. You may consider staying in the military; structure, orders, following protocol, all seem well suited for you. In trucking, you’ll encounter a wide variety of personalities, and a very fluid environment that requires much adaptation. Good luck with whatever choices you make.

And I cant stay stay in the military, got in a little fight with and IED and was medically retired. And to hit on your posts about the military, my unit the chain of command did everything like training and cleaning their own weapons. POGS pull that crap, but my unit and chain of command never did.. A good leader practices what they preach to set an example.. But that seems to elude you as well.

I'm currently in school and they are pushing Werner and schneider really hard! .... Being prior service I don't trust recruiters and sure as heck not trusting a school who is pushing 2 companies that have crap plastered all over their walls and training trucks.

My radar went up at the first post, but I kept my mouth shut, and tried to give advice.

Then:

Steven's, Roehl, Decker, Werner all did it to me. The two different recruiters from Steven's were so rude to me I left a review on Facebook with my experience, Theey deleted my review and blocked me lol. .... Not sure I want to work for someone like that.

If I may, out of curiosity what led to Stevens being rude? Also you said you were in direct contact with all 4 companies at some point? What info was given before they bailed?

Right off the bad she had a ****ty attitude then told me that my application wasn't complete even though I had confirmation from sholanda it was. She then proceeded to talk to me like I was an idiot when I questioned my application and the stuff i had been told by sholanda. She then told me that she didn't think I was cut out to be a trucker and maybe I should do something else. I told her If this is the way she talks to possible recruits I don't want anything to do with the company.. I don't have thin skin and spent 11 years as an infantryman, but I couldn't believe the way she talked to me especially after being dropped like a bad habit out of the blue from sholanda. I left sent a message to then on Facebook asking for another recruiter to contact me, and was blocked from their Facebook page. Anyone wants proof of this I have all the emails and screenshots of conversations.

As far as the other the other companies I filled out completed applications and even with decker they had me do these safety things online, 3 of them to be exact and boom they all just disappeared. Won't return my emails, calls or anything.

... I mean if this is how they treat people applying for a job, how do they treat their employees??

I had 2 thoughts after that.

One, you came across as having an attitude, arrogant or something.

Two, I wonder what the safety things were, and you must have really messed those up if they wouldn't even communicate after that.

And then, after some advice from Brett, and some slight criticism:

You couldn't be more wrong! Please tell me where I copped an attitude with a recruiter? So did you miss the part where I said that you would be appalled at how the recruiter talked to me? I'm just supposed to let people disrespect me? Nope not letting that happen. Then you accuse me of getting snippy and being arrogant that's so far from the truth. Did reading comprehension fail you? Didn't you see the part where I said I realize I'm a no body in the industry and I will be that way until I prove myself? ... You need to get off your high horse, just because you run a website and a wheel holder for 15 years doesn't mean you know it all either. But yeah all I do is complain my way to the top, at least that's the way you try and make me sound. Guess that's how I made E5 in the minimum time, then E6, guess I passed airborne school and got my ranger tab that way too? Guess I had an awesome military career for being a whiney little *****, that's what your basically saying I am isn't it? Not once did I never cop and attitude with a recruiter. Not once did I feel entitle to a job like you claim. And now I'm definitely not taking advice from some wheel holder who couldn't even do 20 years in a career field!! I have more intestinal fortitude In my left nostril than you have in your whole body. You are a joke. But hey go ahead and promote your website and articles because you know everything after a big whopping 15 years driving lol.

Then your response to Pete B:

I didn't ask for your opinion, get off his ****.

I agree with Sholanda, you aren't cut out to be a trucker, or any job dealing with the public, until you learn some humility, how to speak to others, and control your temper.

As a vet, I respect your service, and I know how hard it is to deal with the public after getting out. But it does require an attitude adjustment, or you are going to have difficulty in any field. But your accomplishments there are history.

And you can tell me to get off anyone's d*** you like, I could care less. I am my own man, if I thought Brett was wrong, I would speak up, and he could boot me if he likes. I speak my mind, if someone doesn't like it, they are free to ignore me, block me, boot me, And my life will go on.

You couldn't be more wrong! Please tell me where I copped an attitude with a recruiter? So did you miss the part where I said that you would be appalled at how the recruiter talked to me?

Might as well delete this thread, delete my account and block me, definitely won't be back to take advice from you, someone who couldn't even do 20 years behind the wheel and now wants everyone to think they know it all after 15 years.. you are a joke.

I didn't ask for your opinion, get off his ****.

A good leader practices what they preach to set an example.. But that seems to elude you as well.

Is this what not copping an attitude looks like? Your case weakens with every subsequent post. Even more so when your posts start showing up in a incontinent, string-like fashion. They keep showing up while I have been writing this post!

Did you talk to a few bad recruiters? Maybe. Though if one looks your quotes above, there would be doubts that you really didn't cop any attitude with any of them. So now even if you were to provide the audio of your conversations with recruiters proving you were telling the truth, the way you have responded no longer inspires anyone to go out of their way to help you. That doesn't bode well for any career, let alone a trucking career.

Are there bad truckers out there, aka terminal rats? Yes there are. Do they reflect poorly on the companies they drive for? Yep. Does that mean the companies are terrible companies? Not necessarily.

Are there grouchy baggers, cashiers, or greeters working for Walmart, Kroger, etc? Probably. Are those terrible companies? Come now.

I am not a trucker and have never been a trucker. I may become a trucker someday, which is why I am here noticing your so-called not copping an attitude. But none of that is really all that important. The fact of the matter is this: a lot of what is said and given as advice on this site also applies to practically every other field and organization on the planet. Every organization has its go-getters and all-stars as well as their terminal rat equivalents. This is just the 80/20 rule, aka the Pareto Principle. Your original post elicited a bit of concern for your situation... and also a small red flag. "Did this guy have a legitimate problem? Or is he going to be a super trucker?" Your subsequent posts included a bit more vitriol each time and clarified the situation immensely to everyone else around.

I have more intestinal fortitude In my left nostril than you have in your whole body.

Given your posts afterwards, it doesn't look like it. Consider what everyone here is saying to you and try again from another angle. If you can turn your perspective around a bit and be a bit more diplomatic, you might get a more favorable outcome.

I'm just supposed to let people disrespect me?

If you have so much intestinal fortitude in your left nostril, then yes, you are. Then charm them such that they chuckle, turn their behavior around, and you get the job done and get back on the road.

I speak my mind, if someone doesn't like it, they are free to ignore me, block me, boot me, And my life will go on.

Yes, your miserable life will go on.

It goes on without a job or a career in trucking. Should some company be so bold to give you a shot at this, you will soon discover how obviously right the insights you ignored in this conversation really were. You will struggle greatly as a trucker, eventually quit, and still be vainly spewing venom about how you were treated.

Unfortunately that will mean you learned nothing from us or from your experience and exposure to a career that rewards those who know how to get things accomplished. You'll still be scratching your head and wondering how such a wonderful person as yourself could ever be treated so unfairly to the point of people completely "blocking" them from social media sites.