Company Asks For Drug Test While Zero HOS Left

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Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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You can go on duty for the test and take and additional 10 hour break. the 10 hour would start over at that point. so instead of 10 hours, you would have done 8 sleeper, on duty for yhe test, then 10 hours off.....or.. im not sure an 8/2 split would work, but it is possible in theory that you would do the 8 sleeper, go on duty for the test, then do 2 hours off duty and legally get back your full 11/14.

with 4 years of driving, im kinda wondering why you need to ask. have you been running teams the whole time so HOS isnt a real issue?

taking 8 then 10 would screw your co driver, but if it gets you rest so be it.

i think there is also a misunderstanding of "rest" and "sleep" when it comes to truckers. many truckerd eant yo say "i had a 10 hour break but only slept 5. im entitled to 10 hours!" one guy i knew played golf with a friend for 8 hours then complained he needed to sleep more and not deliver the load.

smh

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Robert D. (Raptor)'s Comment
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When i drove before, I got called in to do a drug test on my days off. Yes it's an inconvenience, but as long as I did the test I was in compliance. Even before 9/11, we had to comply with random drug testing. One of our guys got pulled in three times in a month, but it was the computer who picked when and who would need to go for the pee test. If your company is giving you the miles and if you need time off, you get it with no hassle, you've got a great company to work for. Suck it up and do what is required to be a top tier driver. No one wants to take the time to go down and take the test, but it is required and you did sign that you would comply when you were issued your CDL.

Old School, G-Town and Rainy, didn't wake one morning and say,"I don't feel like going to do it because it is inconvenient," they do their job and get on with business at hand.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Turtle's Comment
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Hey how many times has this happened to you in your 4 years of driving? There's your answer.

Its an incredibly rare occurrence, deserving minimal thought or concern.

Anttjuan R.'s Comment
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@Turtle Like Robert D. (Raptor) said, it happened to one if his guys three times in one month. I'd rather be informed about these things than just be caught by surprise and not know what I can and can't do. At least now I know it's something I must comply with regardless of the clock or what my status is. That is all I was seeking to know here.

I don't know where the comments like "chill out" and "suck it up" are coming from. Just because I seek to know what rights I have as a driver? Or because I said it bothered me a bit that I had to be awoken from my sleep? Well I'm definetly not going to jump for joy over something like that. Of course I'm not going to like it. Either way, I got my answer many comments ago and I appreciate everyone who contributed to it.

Mike D.'s Comment
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In the High Roads CDL training material, anything company related duties must be logged on.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Anttjuan R.'s Comment
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with 4 years of driving, im kinda wondering why you need to ask.

I needed to ask because I didn't know the answer. Even if I had been doing this for 10 years and it was the first time something like this had happened, I would still ask. To answer your question though, I've had a mixture of both solo and team runs throughout those years. Mostly teams though.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Joseph L.'s Comment
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While searching for a replacement co driver I was given the number of another CRST driver who turned out to be a student in week two of training.smile.gif He told me he and his lead had been sitting in California for several days because they had been randomly selected for a drug test which they went and took. He said that they were waiting for a load when their DM call the lead and told them that they needed to go to some other lab to be tested because he and his student both tested positive for meth,wtf.gif the trainer has been with the company for years and has passed all drug test with flying colors. The only thing that they could think of was there was a mixup, lab error.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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