Long Form Physical
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No, I do not have a problem with this. Swift pays for my medical recertification, the exam is performed and administered by their Doctor.
Since the long form is an FMCSA document, everything on there is relevant to them.
Why the paranoia?
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
Dm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
No, I do not have a problem with this. Swift pays for my medical recertification, the exam is performed and administered by their Doctor.
Since the long form is an FMCSA document, everything on there is relevant to them.
Why the paranoia?
Agreed, but I'm not sure I have this document. All I remember getting is the card.
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
Dm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
If you dont have a problem with it, and you dont care, thats fine, it's an individual decision. Some people might have an issue with it. It isnt paranoia, its medical privacy, and it matters. Even if its an FMCSA document, the employer is not the FMCSA, and NO not everything on there is relevant to them. Some people may not want to disclose a disability to their emplyer that doesnt affect their ability to drive. That is why a medical certiicate is issued, which states whether a Driver is medically qualified or not. That should be all the information an employer needs to know. Im Texas, the DPS only want you to send in the Medical Certificate. To get and obtain a CDL , you only need to provide the issuing agency, the Medical Certificate. Seems like it should be enough.
No, I do not have a problem with this. Swift pays for my medical recertification, the exam is performed and administered by their Doctor.
Since the long form is an FMCSA document, everything on there is relevant to them.
Why the paranoia?
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
Dm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
David, the employer is legally and financially responsible if you go out there and kill someone and the cause is something related to your medical history. It's their trucks, it's their legal liability, so it's their call. They can examine you to any level they feel is necessary to protect themselves. It's not for you to decide if something is relevant to them or not. That's for them to determine any way they see fit.
You don't have the right to medical privacy in a safety-related job that puts public lives at risk and ultimately holds your employer legally and financially responsible for making sure their drivers are fit to drive.
You do, however, have the right to medical privacy if you're knitting quilts or growing tomatoes.
OWI:
Operating While Intoxicated
David, I'm pretty certain that the FMCSA requires companies who employ commercial drivers to have that long form on file for each driver. Trust me when I tell you nobody is going to be reading it. They want it simply to comply with the FMCA's record keeping rules. When (not if) they go through an audit they will need to show they've got those things on file. That long form will be buried so deep somewhere that it will never see the light of day. If you're ever in a trucking company office you'll discover those folks are way too busy to be concerned with snooping around in 15,000 copies of employee's medical long forms.
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Since the long form is an FMCSA document, everything on there is relevant to them.
Why the paranoia?
Not really. The long-term physical isn’t really relevant at all to a driver unless he has health problems to begin with. A driver with a two year physical means that there aren’t any relevant physical problems. I’ve seen Drivers with six months physical, which means they do have some relevant problems and in that instance. It’d be a good idea to take a look at their long-form and find out why they only have a six months physical
Their other companies that are famous for giving their own physical and then giving you a six months physical card so that makes it difficult to get another job. Because this has been used by some relatively large companies to enslave their drivers…. You can call the DOT and they’ll put your original to your card back in the play.
Of course, if you go to a doctor for the DOT physical.. that’s the one that they keep on file
If you have a good two-year medical card and ask for the long form, there is something wrong because it’s not relevant
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Wayne I have to disagree with some of your statement.
I have my own authority and when FMCSA conducted my audit they asked for the long form on me. I am the only driver as well as the owner. I have a 2 year card.
Also I am pretty sure the latest DOT physical is the current and invalidates any prior ones because every state makes you self certify the latest card.
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
David, the employer is legally and financially responsible if you go out there and kill someone and the cause is something related to your medical history. It's their trucks, it's their legal liability, so it's their call. They can examine you to any level they feel is necessary to protect themselves. It's not for you to decide if something is relevant to them or not. That's for them to determine any way they see fit.
You don't have the right to medical privacy
I would doubt that the FMCSA ASK FOR YOUR LONG FORM… it was probably someone who wasn’t related to the federal care, safety administration.
According to theFMCSA: 🔴〰️”A Safety Audit consists of a review of a carrier's safety data, a review of motor carrier documents, and an interview with the motor carrier's safety official.” 567.〰️🔴 Unlimited. https://csa.fmcsa.dot.gov › MyFiles
There is so much false information out there propagated by drivers that often drivers or confused or let astray.
🔴〰️” FMCSA audits owner-operators as part of the New Entrant Safety Assurance Program: New Entrant Safety Assurance Audit New trucking companies, including owner-operators, must undergo a safety audit within their first 18 months of business. The FMCSA also monitors new entrants through roadside inspections. Safety audit requirements New entrants must: Operate safely Maintain up-to-date records Conduct periodic inspections Perform maintenance on commercial motor vehicles (CMV) Pass the safety audit ”〰️🔴
It’s extremely unlikely they asked for your long-form physical is a matter of fact you can call the federal Motor care safety administration at at
🟢〰️MCSA Information Line Call 1-800-832-5660 f〰️🟢
Perhaps they were very suspicious of things you had told them or perhaps it looked like your card was forged… I’ve been driving a long time and Owner Operators make about half of what you can make as a company driver. The average owner operator only makes $60,000 a year after expenses. To me, it’s a foolish move to be become an owner operator. I hear a lot of crap about how much money they make compared paychecks. You can make good money working for FedEx or UPS to be a good driver and there’s many companies in Chicago where you can clear 3000 a week after taxes.
Have you ever took your medical card and they ask you for your lung form? It’s a total waste of time and they just don’t do it. Give them a call. The odds that they asked in your case is exactly 0 unless you have some serious physical defects, and I would encourage all drivers out there to check it out by calling FMCSA!
Wayne I have to disagree with some of your statement.
I have my own authority and when FMCSA conducted my audit they asked for the long form on me. I am the only driver as well as the owner. I have a 2 year card.
Also I am pretty sure the latest DOT physical is the current and invalidates any prior ones because every state makes you self certify the latest card.
Owner Operator:
An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.
Commercial Motor Vehicle:
A commercial motor vehicle is any vehicle used in commerce to transport passengers or property with either:
- A gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more
- A gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more which includes a towed unit with a gross vehicle weight rating of more than 10,000 pounds
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
CMV:
Commercial Motor Vehicle
A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:
- Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
- Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
- Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
- Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
- Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
Dm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Agreed, but I'm not sure I have this document. All I remember getting is the card.
You can get your long form from your doctor. That did the original test he’s required to keep it. It’s so not used unless you have a six month or one year card… the doctor rarely gives it to you because the federal amount of Carrier safety administration will not ask you for it unless there’s something really strange
Your physical is now attached to your CDL A… but not your long form so your DOT doesn’t have it stored someplace. It’s just not necessary and if you get audited, it’s not something they check…. I gave the criteria of an audit above…. Again, unless there’s something definitely odd.
Your doctor can actually fax it to you at the waystation if for some reason you’re asked for it but it’s very unlikely and if you get audited, the odds are practically zero because it’s a waste of time to look at your long form physical when they can take a look at your medical card… even if you just have a year physical there’s really no reason to look at anything else the long form is basically notes taken by the doctor to support why he gave you the card gave you the one year or two year the settlement carrier typically does not question a doctor because they’re not qualified to do so unless it’s under very special circumstances like for example if you ran over for five pedestrians
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Dm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.New Reply:
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Anyone else have a problem with companies requiring a copy of your long form physical? It seem to me is that the medical certification is all they need to have. Should we disclose to our employers medical history that does not concern the FMCSA medical requirements, which if we are honest during the process will be on that long form? It seems that the ADA would protect against disclosing disabilites not job related.
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.