ELDs For Rental Trucks?
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I know about the permits required by some states. But I'm confused now. Do you, or do you not, need to keep driver logs when driving a non- CDL commercial vehicle? The replies I received here ssid no, a CHP officer told me yes. Do different states have different requirements? Is going across state lines in furtherance of a business the determining factor?
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Is going across state lines in furtherance of a business the determining factor?
Yes. And I apologize for contributing to your confusion by applying household goods moved in a rental truck.
Please realize that your circumstance is rather unique when considering what most of us do on this forum. For the most part, we are driving class 7-8 combination vehicles and MUST comply with e-log and HOS rules. Take the officers advice, log you hours and be done with it. Not that difficult to-do.
I also suggest investing some time in FMCSA’s website, using it’s built-in search facility.
Looking through this wouldn’t hurt either:
If this is the type of thing you will be doing for a while, you need to understand which rules apply and when. Study them.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Logbook:
A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.
Combination Vehicle:
A vehicle with two separate parts - the power unit (tractor) and the trailer. Tractor-trailers are considered combination vehicles.
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Thank you very much for the clarification. Yes, this type is driving is not what is talked about most of the time on this forum. Maybe I wasn't completely clear, either. I was inspected at a Missouri Port of Entry and I was asked for my log book. After the CHP officer told me I needed them, I got them and filled them out, but I made some mistakes. I didn't know they had to be signed every day, and I forgot to total my hours for each category. The trooper in Missouri was very patient after I told him it had been seven years since I had tried to fill one out. He pointed out the errors, as well as answered a question I had about time zone changes - you are supposed to stay with the time zone you originated with. I understand this is very old hat to most everyone on here.
I have before me a copy of the Examination Report from the Missouri State Highway Patrol It lists Section 395.8 and Section 395(a)(3)(ii) as violations. What exactly does this mean? No citations were issued, so will there be a fine?
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Nope. Just a semiannual permit.