Moving While Out Of Hours?

If you're asking if it's ok to move when you're out of hours without asking your company, I would say you better make sure you can get over there without triggering the clock.

It's not really that big of a deal if you go .1 miles in violation, but it may mess with the clock. Let's say when they're finished you've went over by 2 hours. Now, if you creep over and accidentally trigger your clock you will have to take a 10 hour break once you get there.

If you go there on PC, since PC is logged in off duty you would only have to take an 8 hour break before you can leave.

Anyways, it's up to you.

Yeah I got you. Schneider logs are a bit weird not sure if it's everywhere but it only saves logs in 5 minutes or more, so for example if I was off duty for X amount of time and then start driving but less then 5 minutes then it won't have the drive time. But it saves anything over 5 minutes.

But I'm sure it would trigger the Qualcomm if I'm completely out on my 14 hours. I should be fine to move a few hundred yards, I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Since you're not leaving the facility and only creeping a couple hundred feet out of the dock, just go slow enough to not trigger "driving " and you're fine.

If you have a "yard move " button like I do, you could use that too. You probably haven't logged your post trip yet anyway so add that when you move your truck to your parking area.

Remember when your 14 hour clock is up, you can be on duty indefinitely.. just can't "drive " until you've had a 10 hour break.

Jamie, I asked my dbl the exact same question a month ago. No personal conveyance provision at Schneider.

However, I know from experience that driving a short distance less than 5 mph will NOT put you on the driving line if you are logged in as off duty. I’ve experimented with this while driving around yards searching for a trailer. So I don’t think it’s a HOS violation to do that, except technically it is but it won’t register on your MCP.

My caution is this: my dbl told me that the “under 5 mph” thing is a myth in the sense it will be recorded by the company if the company even notices it or really even cares. I’m a terrible under 5 mph offender and no one has said a word to me.

Just an update, I got finished and parked with 6 minutes left enough to log my post trip.

Just an update, I got finished and parked with 6 minutes left enough to log my post trip.

Examples of Appropriate Uses of a CMV While Off-duty for Personal Conveyance per FMCSA

Time spent traveling to a nearby, reasonable, safe location to obtain required rest after loading or unloading. The time driving under personal conveyance must allow the driver adequate time to obtain the required rest in accordance with minimum off-duty periods under 49 CFR 395.3(a)(1) (property-carrying vehicles) before returning to on-duty driving, and the resting location must be the first such location reasonably available.

I busted my clock the other night by 1 min and sent a macro in to justify the bust.

Just to find out we have a 30min grace.

I'm kinda curious, with Schneider, does it kick you into drive as soon as you go over 5mph? I run for Knight and we have 2.1 miles until it kicks over, regardless of speed, it just backdates from beginning of movement.

I busted my clock the other night by 1 min and sent a macro in to justify the bust.

Just to find out we have a 30min grace.

Solo, is that 30 min grace period unique to your company or industry wide?

I'm kinda curious, with Schneider, does it kick you into drive as soon as you go over 5mph? I run for Knight and we have 2.1 miles until it kicks over, regardless of speed, it just backdates from beginning of movement.

Hummmmm, I don’t know. I guess I will have to experiment with that as I have always believed the urban legend about 5 mph. But Keith, if I get into trouble it’ll be all your fault and you will have that on your conscience forever.