Sorry bart cant do that not ethical. Old school which company accepts the notarized letter? My wifes best freind is an admissions coordinator at a nursing home thus she is a notary. I can get a signature from multiple nurses admins, doctors, and the ceo. I did technical cunsulting for all of pinnicle health to prepare them for a federal survey on building safety. I eat lunch with most of them once a week they know what i did my wife is also a department head. I have real references from respectable and proffesional people. Also i am right by wamart home offices my father has been there for 20yrs and my wifes ex husband is a warehouse manager at the big d.c. All would give reference in fact i want cdl experience so i can get the gravy walmart driver jobs. Around here i am a good ole boy. I just dont have taxable income my wife does.
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Get prepaid cell phones and create fake names for fake references and pretend you are the reference. It works like a charm. I had a professor in tech school that had been a Human Resources director for a large corporation. He taught every class to do just that. I even created Email addresses for my "references"... Its a jungle out there. Go for the throat and dont stop until you get what you need.
And this post is a perfect example of the mind set we DONT need in trucking.
Kazza1214, I don't recommend you do anything unethical in your job application. Be completely honest and upfront with people and you will come out on top. I've helped a few guys in this position and the names of the companies that I remember were Werner, Schneider, and Maverick.
As far as I know most trucking companies will accept this type documentation. Training companies may be a little more strict on their requirements. The people I helped had gone to a private truck driving school.
One more thing is that some recruiters are not even aware that this is acceptable to their company. Not all recruiters are up to speed on what all they need from you. So even if a recruiter told you they couldn't accept this you might try and talk to their boss. Or tell the recruiter a knowledgeable person that you know told you that most trucking companies will accept this and ask them to let you talk to their boss so you can confirm exactly what is required for your work history. Don't ever try and judge a company by it's recruiters - some of them are not as aggressive as they need to be or are just not real sure about what they are doing. Recruiting departments some times have as high a turn-over rate as do the drivers. Persistence is your best friend when dealing with the recruiters.
Get prepaid cell phones and create fake names for fake references and pretend you are the reference. It works like a charm. I had a professor in tech school that had been a Human Resources director for a large corporation. He taught every class to do just that. I even created Email addresses for my "references"... Its a jungle out there. Go for the throat and dont stop until you get what you need.
This was the best and most reasonable suggestion I've read on this topic. I'm not saying that the other responses weren't helpful, they were, but it just seems like a man has to do what a man has to do to feed his kids. The gov't drives a poor unemployed man to desperate measures. During these times, everyone knows that jobs are few and far between. That's why so many are looking into trucking. Most of these people didn't grow up wanting to be Truck Drivers. It's all that's out there for so many people. That may be a sad fact, and I know many will say that if your heart isn't in it, you shouldn't be a truck driver. Well, I'm sure there are thousands of truckers who went into the industry because there was nothing else for them. Bob
Bobby, I disagree wholeheartedly. This is an old topic from this forum, but the idea of "lying your way into trucking" is nothing new. People try it, and fail, all the time. Every new orientation class will send home probably 20% or more of their new drivers in the first three days. People try to hide things in their background, pass drug tests using over-the-counter products that supposedly mask their drug use, and all sorts of shenanigans.
Trucking companies do far more thorough background checks than most people would ever expect. They're held responsible for their driver's actions and they take that ethical and legal matter very seriously. They've seen every trick in the book a thousand times.
I fully understand that there are a lot of people in tough situations trying to get into trucking, and they will get into trucking without having to resort to unethical conduct. You have to remember that once you get caught lying to a company, that's it. You'll never work for that company again. You don't want to go around being blacklisted in an industry right off the bat, do you?
There are a ton of companies out there. Some are going to turn people away while others will accept those same people. You just have to stick with it until someone gives you an opportunity. The only time you're not going to be given an opportunity in this industry is if you've had very recent and very serious legal issues, like felonies and DUI's. Even those are forgiven with time by most companies.
You're better off playing it straight and being up front with people. In the long run you're simply not going to outsmart people with underhanded tactics.
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Bob wrote:
...and I know many will say that if your heart isn't in it, you shouldn't be a truck driver. Well, I'm sure there are thousands of truckers who went into the industry because there was nothing else for them.
...and I know that's why those same people make a very quick exit from this. Pretenders do not last on this job.
Work history is the thing that too is haunting me. I've had stable employment till 2006 when my health went south, 5 years pretty much bed ridden. In 2010 I was diagnosed with Chronic Lyme Disease and so started a slow climb back to being on my feet. Only stable income to show for myself is Disability. Still in the research phase of becoming a licensed CDL Driver. Getting all my ducks in a row before jumping into the big pond. Helpful advise truly welcome.
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A lot of the work history and background issues come more from the insurance company than the trucking company, so finding one that self insures can help quite a bit. For instance, CR England self ensures and has no problem bringing people on with unemployment or unverifiable employment in that time, they just want it all filled out and showing that you weren't sitting on the couch all day.
Having recently been on the phone about this with Knight, I can tell you they want to see verifiable employment for at least two of the last three years. They indicated that two of the last three is fairly standard.
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Not gonna lie, that is clever. but lets say for instance, they want yo to fax the results of a drug test or any other documents?
Still, if I am ever in a bind about employment I may try that lol. except you can show proof of the tax form or pay stubs. so it's like a 50/50 shot right?